roundy Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 My other half's family farm has issues with mags, bunnies etc, her dad already has FAC for .22 so am I right in saying the land will already be cleared for FAC? What do you think my chances are of getting an FAC for something like .17HMR or would I better going for .22LR ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 My other half's family farm has issues with mags, bunnies etc, her dad already has FAC for .22 so am I right in saying the land will already be cleared for FAC? What do you think my chances are of getting an FAC for something like .17HMR or would I better going for .22LR ? Don't presume, her dad may have a open licence. There is loads and loads of info on here about lr vs hmr, have a search about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Just another question :-) I already have a cabinet for the shotgun which will hold up to 3/4 but does not have a separate storage area for ammo and bolt. Does this have to be a wall secured safe or can it be free standing as its just the ammo and bolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Just another question :-) I already have a cabinet for the shotgun which will hold up to 3/4 but does not have a separate storage area for ammo and bolt. Does this have to be a wall secured safe or can it be free standing as its just the ammo and bolt? Secured to wall, any of the shelf decent safe is normally ok, argos ones seem to be popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 if her family/father are going to give you the written permission, and be one of your signitures, then you'll get fac no problem, so you may as well go for all the calibres you want, they can only say no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katash Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 There is no legal requirement for a rifle bolt to be stored separately from the rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 There is no legal requirement for a rifle bolt to be stored separately from the rifle but it is a sensible and easy precaution that makes the rifle inoperable and makes you look very safe and cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katash Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Agreed, but people wrongly think its a legal requirement - impractical if you own a semi-auto. I personally do not - I have a high quality vault type safe and if they can make it through the main door then something as simple as a large screwdriver will defeat the internal box lock in seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 So application went off in the post yesterday, it's Hampshire so I am not sure how long they take.....start the clock! Went for .17HMR and .22LR both with moderator... I know there are massive debates over .17HMR and .22LR for fox, but that aside I didn't put "fox" down with "pest control", if I mention this to the FEO will he add it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) There is no legal requirement for a rifle bolt to be stored separately from the rifle Indeed, but FEO's love you more when you do I told mine I always store bolts, magazines and guns separately, same as I do with primers and powders. If you do go for the Argos wall safe get the larger one (Argos no 700/1026 £59.99) as the small one has b@gger all room in it Edited May 18, 2011 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 So application went off in the post yesterday, it's Hampshire so I am not sure how long they take.....start the clock! Went for .17HMR and .22LR both with moderator... I know there are massive debates over .17HMR and .22LR for fox, but that aside I didn't put "fox" down with "pest control", if I mention this to the FEO will he add it? I don't know Hampshire's view on fox and rimfire, but you are best to add everything to the FIR101, as most Firearms Dept generally review and debate your application prior to sending it to the FEO. Adding another parameter later "may" cause delays, but definitely talk to him! I assume you already mentioned Expanding ammo on the application, if not talk to him about that as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I'll have to talk to him now as the app has gone off... Thinking about getting a safe from Argos, the little one will defo be enough space for me but it so confusing trying to find the technicalities with regards to safes. Will one of the above be ok if its not to BS7558 standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoughton Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I'll have to talk to him now as the app has gone off... Thinking about getting a safe from Argos, the little one will defo be enough space for me but it so confusing trying to find the technicalities with regards to safes. Will one of the above be ok if its not to BS7558 standard? Yes it will - as long as it is securely mounted to the wall and/or floor. I got mine from screwfix for less than £20 and the FEO was fine with it. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I'll have to talk to him now as the app has gone off... Thinking about getting a safe from Argos, the little one will defo be enough space for me but it so confusing trying to find the technicalities with regards to safes. Will one of the above be ok if its not to BS7558 standard? so get the big one, trust me, this fac shooting lark is addictive, other calibres/ammo/ etc, you'll soon need bigger safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I'd use this as an excuse to get a bigger safe with a top box. The bigger the safe, the more toys you can have at a later date. I have a Brattonsound RL7+ and it's full! When I started I was only going to get a couple of guns but the lads on here suggested I get as big a safe as I could afford. They were right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Thought I'd kick my thread with a quick question.... So, if I do get FAC granted, how does it work with getting your first rifle? Does the man from Del Monte say "yes" then you go find what you want to buy, then tell the FEO so he can issue the cert with that rifle on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Thought I'd kick my thread with a quick question.... So, if I do get FAC granted, how does it work with getting your first rifle? Does the man from Del Monte say "yes" then you go find what you want to buy, then tell the FEO so he can issue the cert with that rifle on it? Once your fac is granted for say a 22rf, you recieve your license sign it and go shopping once you have found the rifle you want in the calibre listed on your fac you buy the gun and the person/shop you bought it from fills out the relevant space on your fac. Once this is completed you then have 7 days to notify your issuing force with the details of your newly aquired gun details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Well, after all this time I finally have my visit next week - fingers crossed! I've met the FEO before for when I transferred my SGC to Hampshire, he's seen my cabinet, asked me if I had a separate safe for ammo, said "you've got land so pretty straight forward. Hopefully it will all be ok! I've applied for .22LR and .17HMR - and moderators for each. I am going to say I want the .22LR for for night shooting and noise sensitive shooting times and the .17HMR for general use, think that's a good pitch? This is my current cabinet which is suitable for 3 guns (although the FEO said it would hold more on his last visit) Cabinet but I remember when he did visit last he was a bit iffy with regards to it complying with the standard - but as far as I can see it's fine. Will print off the details in prep for the visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Well, the application went of on the 17th May and my cert came through my letter box this morning!! 25 weeks, wow :-O So, my first stupid question, can I now purchase a rifle? Or do I need to purchase, send license off for it to be added and then collect? Hampshire include a "purchase form" with the license so is it the same as shotgun, the RFD just writes on my cert and it gets printed next time round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yep you can happily go with a big smile and buy your rifle, just make sure you notify your firearms dept within 7 days, my rfd prints a letter off ready to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Brilliant, good stuff - now to do some shopping! Really want my 17HMR but they seem to be a lot more expensive than 22LR. Think I might just fill that space first... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin128 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) Just another question :-) I already have a cabinet for the shotgun which will hold up to 3/4 but does not have a separate storage area for ammo and bolt. Does this have to be a wall secured safe or can it be free standing as its just the ammo and bolt? Have a look at these notes on Security... Scroll down...about a third of the way down... http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/173038-safe-shooting/ Security of both Firearms and Shotguns is dealt with in Sections 3 and 4 of the Firearms Rules 1998. http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/police/operational-policing/firearms-handbook-2005/firearms-security-handbook?view=Binary HTH Edited November 6, 2011 by Robin128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundy Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Well today I purchased a CZ452 Varmit 16" with Hawke Eclipse 3-9x50 Scope and mod.....and I can't wait to get hold of her!! Just need to call my RFD on Monday to get the transfer sorted. The rifle already has a sling fitted - any suggestions on a bipod?? There seems to be so many different lengths...? Oh, anything else I should get sorted on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Well today I purchased a CZ452 Varmit 16" with Hawke Eclipse 3-9x50 Scope and mod.....and I can't wait to get hold of her!! Just need to call my RFD on Monday to get the transfer sorted. The rifle already has a sling fitted - any suggestions on a bipod?? There seems to be so many different lengths...? Oh, anything else I should get sorted on it? personally I have never found bipods to be that useful. a set of sticks might be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I had a 6-9 bipod on my .22lr and a 9-13 on the HMR, have now changed the .22lr to a 9-13 aswell that bit extra length comes in hand if the grass is a bit longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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