Bird Flu

[Topgunners]

Just seen the news and a dead swan has been found in the U.K

 

In Scotland ,and a 10km exclusion zone has been implemented.

 

Now the fun begins.

 

Dave K

 

Edited April 5, 2006 by Topgunners

[hunterswind9465]

2 miles from my house

[Hunter]

Im sure that will end the jokes about it

 

Lets hope this all gets sorted out ok..

[Topgunners]

the NFU specialist has stated that they hope it is just an isolated case.

 

Dave K

[roe doe]

if it is a outbreak lets hope they handle it better than foot and mouth

because they cocked that up :<

[rarms]

>has stated that they hope it is just an isolated case.

 

 

 

Can't birds fly??

 

If it has come all the way accross the north sea I doubt it will be isolated eh!

[magman]

might be of some help

 

 

Guidance on handling and disposing of dead garden and wild birds

The advice given here applies in all circumstances where members of the public may come across a dead bird, regardless of whether there is any avian influenza in the UK.

 

If you find a dead swan, goose or duck or three or more dead wild, or garden birds together in the same place, please report this to Defra, via the Defra Helpline on 08459 33 55 77. The current Defra helpline opening hours are Monday to Friday 8.00 am to 8.00 pm and Saturday and Sunday 9.00 am to 6.00 pm. They may wish to have the birds examined for signs of specific diseases. They will advise you on what action you should take.

 

If the dead bird is a single, small garden, or wild bird then you do not need to call Defra. You should:

 

leave it alone, or

follow the guidelines below for disposal

Wild birds can carry several diseases that are infectious to people and some simple hygiene precautions should minimise the risk of infection. It is hard for people to catch avian influenza from birds and the following simple steps are also effective against avian influenza.

 

If you have to move a dead bird

 

Avoid touching the bird with your bare hands

If possible, wear disposable protective gloves when picking up and handling (if disposable gloves are not available see 7)

Place the dead bird in a suitable plastic bag, preferably leak proof. Care should be taken not to contaminate the outside of the bag

Tie the bag and place it in a second plastic bag

Remove gloves by turning them inside out and then place them in the second plastic bag. Tie the bag and dispose of in the normal household refuse bin.

Hands should then be washed thoroughly with soap and water

If disposable gloves are not available, a plastic bag can be used as a make-shift glove. When the dead bird has been picked up, the bag can be turned back on itself and tied. It should then be placed in a second plastic bag, tied and disposed of in the normal household waste

Alternatively, the dead bird can be buried, but not in a plastic bag

Any clothing that has been in contact with the dead bird should be washed using ordinary washing detergent at the temperature normally used for washing the clothing.

Any contaminated indoor surfaces should be thoroughly cleaned with normal household cleaner.

[Topgunners]

We will ALL have to use these from now on, and WASH them before we pick them up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or fly these BOYS in to sort them out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or even the MAN!!!!!!!! ??:/??

 

 

 

 

Dave K

 

 

Edited April 6, 2006 by Topgunners

[Paul in North Lincs.]

It's really worrying me as I have literally hundreds of pounds of pedigree racing pigeons in training for this season. I've already had to cut down my chanel racing team to a couple of stock pairs in light of the ban.

 

Also for a second income the wife and I provide pure white racing pigeons for release @ weddings, funerals, and concerts etc, and potentailly there could be impications for both!!

 

and no.........I not raving anti......I readily shoot pigeons to!!!!

[tenbears10]

Paul is right it's peoples livelihoods which are most at risk if this becomes a large scale outbreak.

 

It is a very small chance that humans will get it and pass it on especially here in the UK.

 

But if people stop buying chicken or are not allowed to continue farming free range or all the other incomes which come from something bird related then lots of business are going feel the squeeze. The pheasant season will be under a lot of pressure this year which will effect incomes in the rural economy.

[il cacciatore]

So if you shoot a pigeon for example you have to avoid touching it with your bare hands, put it in a plastic bag etc. So I'm guessing eating it is out of the question!

[tenbears10]

So if you shoot a pigeon for example you have to avoid touching it with your bare hands, put it in a plastic bag etc. So I'm guessing eating it is out of the question!

i think the worry is finding dead birds not shooting healthy ones. Flu will kill the birds quickly so you won't be shooting infected birds unless the disease is very widespread. There is no evidence that you can catch flu through eating bird meat.

[Topgunners]

Paul is right it's peoples livelihoods which are most at risk if this becomes a large scale outbreak.

 

It is a very small chance that humans will get it and pass it on especially here in the UK.

 

But if people stop buying chicken or are not allowed to continue farming free range or all the other incomes which come from something bird related then lots of business are going feel the squeeze. The pheasant season will be under a lot of pressure this year which will effect incomes in the rural economy.

i agree entirely, and not just that; if shooters don't shoot all the gun shops will lose money.

 

Plus the cartridge prices will come down if no one is using them up(a BONUS methinks) and the clay clubs will have a field day.

 

Let's hope DEFRA don't screw this up.

 

Dave K.

[Frank]

 

 

Let's hope DEFRA don't screw this up.

 

Dave K.

No offence, but they did with the foot and mouth.

[kirky640]

the NFU specialist has stated that they hope it is just an isolated case.

 

Dave K

dont think so as swans dont migrate do they

[Hunter]

Yep they do

 

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=mig...le+Search&meta=

[Teal]

The affected swan is a mute swan, which doesn't tend to migrate. Some other species of swan of course do.

[coupe312]

well that makes it worse... if they don't migrate then that means that the bird flu have been brought to it!!!!! oh ****

[Hunter]

Keep your eyes peeled for any sick/dead birds people.. and dont touch them.

[Highlander]

Well I guess the inevitable's happened so a) don't panic, only 90 odd people worldwide have died from it so get real people. no doubt the powers that be will make as good a job of it as they do with everything else (Chicken salmonella, BSE, FnM, etc) not. c) kill a pigeon before it kills you

[kirky640]

well that makes it worse... if they don't migrate then that means that the bird flu have been brought to it!!!!! oh ****

my thought a well !!!

[Frank]

kill a pigeon before it kills you :blink:

That sounds good to me

[hunterswind9465]

Police road blocks have gone. Not a lot happening here now

[PestController]

I live on the eastern side of the country, and I hope I'm wrong but my guess is that with the massive influx of winter wildfowl that this country sees each year, we'd be very fortunate if we escaped a big problem. Given the sheer numbers of immigrating birds from Europe and the Baltic, something's bound to happen sooner or later. For one, I will be using disposable plastic gloves when handling dead pigeon, it's a risk you cannot take, in not doing so IMHO.

[magman]

Police road blocks have gone. Not a lot happening here now

lets hope you get back to it then mate