Harnser Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 For all license applications I have had to deal with Norfolk constabulary and have never had a problem with any thing I have asked for or variations . They have always been courteous ,helpful and quick to turn a variation round . It wasn't until I joined this forum that I realized that the Norfolk constabulary's attitude to wards shooters was not universal through out the country . I have been reading on here the horrendous problems and restrictions some constabulary's impose on shooters before granting a firearms certificate . I think that it is about time that the whole application for a grant of a fire arm is re looked at by government and standardized throughout the whole of the UK . Thank god for the sense and service that I receive from Norfolk fire arms licensing department . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I know where you're coming from, Lancs have been fine with me. I suppose it depends on how committed the force is to SGC/FAC applications. More rural forces are perhaps more likely to be more efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Humberside are rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Be careful what you wish for. Do you think a national standard would end up being the tolerant and helpful Norfolk version or the by-the-book facist version? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 You're bloody right. How about an optional online interface to cut paperwork and make cash flow a lot easier too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Northamptonshire have been fantastic. Had the odd error but nothing was too much trouble. Hats off to them :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddan Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Be careful what you wish for. Do you think a national standard would end up being the tolerant and helpful Norfolk version or the by-the-book facist version? :blink: Isn't this really the issue though, most of the by the book issues you see on here are as a result of rules being made up by individual forces.. I don't think Norfolk are lax they just don't create loads of random stuff dressed up as rules. I agree it would be good for them to be reviewed. I wouldn't mind the goalposts being a bit tighter as long as they didn't keep getting moved all the time. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 For all license applications I have had to deal with Norfolk constabulary and have never had a problem with any thing I have asked for or variations . They have always been courteous ,helpful and quick to turn a variation round . It wasn't until I joined this forum that I realized that the Norfolk constabulary's attitude to wards shooters was not universal through out the country . I have been reading on here the horrendous problems and restrictions some constabulary's impose on shooters before granting a firearms certificate . I think that it is about time that the whole application for a grant of a fire arm is re looked at by government and standardized throughout the whole of the UK . Thank god for the sense and service that I receive from Norfolk fire arms licensing department . Harnser . I did have a major problem with Lancashire constabulary when I put in for a variation for my .243 but I feel that this was due to their "interpretation" of the home office guide lines and "a personal issue" that I had with my FEO. I should add that this has been resolved and I have received some very good advice and help from them since then! I have also recently been told that Lancashire are getting a new FEO that will be covering my area to hopefully things will get back to the time when I really was full of praise for the Lancashire Firearms Department. I have to say that the girls in the office at Lancashire Firearme Department have never been anything other than helpfull, courteous, polite and very efficient, I can not speak highly enough of them. I think the majority of the problems (In general) with delays in issuing SGCs and FACs are down to two things - Shortages of staff due to "cut backs" and different areas having different "interpretations" of the Firearms Acy and the Home Office Guidelines and this is where improvements need to be made! Maybe an online application system would work and be more practical but it would still be down to staff to process the applications and make the decisions so I don't think that it would speed the system up much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Humberside are rubbish. i find them ok got everything i asked for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 You're bloody right. How about an optional online interface to cut paperwork and make cash flow a lot easier too. I can see an Iphone app on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I think Harnser that there are a lot of young shooters on here and a lot of the issues you see are related to little experience and wanting centrefires. I progressed rimfires to centrefires with herts and no issues at all always decent service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I think Harnser that there are a lot of young shooters on here and a lot of the issues you see are related to little experience and wanting centrefires. I progressed rimfires to centrefires with herts and no issues at all always decent service Alex I'm sure you have hit the nail on the head. Also many seem to forget that all applications and requests are treated on their own merit and as such there is no black and white regarding the "rule book" and nor should there be as in many cases there is not a one size fits all answer. What do need weeding out though are those department heads who refuse to administer the issuing of fac's within the spirit of the act and guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I think Harnser that there are a lot of young shooters on here and a lot of the issues you see are related to little experience and wanting centrefires. I progressed rimfires to centrefires with hearts and no issues at all always decent service Yes you are proberbly right . I still think that it should be Grant or refuse and not putting silly restrictions on shooters . If you are refused than you can do something about it. That what we pay our shooting associations for . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I dont mind South Yorkshire. I think the only thing that lets them down is their FLO i dont really get on with him i find him a little hard to get on with an difficult to talk to or even ask advice. Because if you asked for something your not entirely sure of but are entitled to it he seems to just say give it a bit longer with what you have got or apply later on its busy now. But ive never listened to him and always applied for what i thought was right/needed. and always got apart from one occasion when i wanted .410 slugs and an FAC shotgun, Pump or semi i wasnt bothered. he said no straight away unless i join PSG. I too progressed from rimfires to centerfire and there was no problem with them there i applied for my .223 got that 6 months later applied for a .22-250 aswell and got that along with keeping my .223 i think if i wanted another centerfire id have to lose one. I really really do wish that they would let you pay for variations over the internet and let you apply for variations over the internet and renewals. I think it would be miles quicker and more convienient. they should invent a system so you have all your info stored on a credit card size type of firearms license that would be easy as owt and that when you sell a .22lr you dont have to then apply to get another one and send everything off again its all just so time consuming and such a chore. im sure it will come one day its the way everything is going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Northamptonshire have been fantastic. Had the odd error but nothing was too much trouble. Hats off to them :good: Yes they seem Ok to me thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I think that standards can vary within each department regardless of force though there is no doupt some forces are better than others. Some officers have more knowledge about firearms and law than others regardless of being in the firearms department. Take the Gloucestershire force, my original feo, though a nice bloke has some strange ideas on what is fact and fiction, hes a police officer, these days I try to get hold of another chap in their main office, hes a civy and knows much more than the regular officer and really goes out of his way to assist you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnum Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 no probs here can,t fault WREXHAM !!!!! but you do here some nigthmares on this site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I think Harnser that there are a lot of young shooters on here and a lot of the issues you see are related to little experience and wanting centrefires. I progressed rimfires to centrefires with herts and no issues at all always decent service Move to Cheshire and say the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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