markm Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Got ours today, looking grand, fab first day weather, 50/50 split melanistic / ringneck, praying for no rain, wind or cold for the week although it might come on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Ours went to wood today at 8 weeks had them from day olds though looks to be a good forecast to have them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 5 days till wednesday, thats long enough for the birds to get to know whats what, bonus in a funny sort of way is with the ground being so dry it'll take a good shower of rain with out turning into a mud bath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 All to pens in next few days in 2 batches weather permitting. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 we got 25 thou on the field 2 thou to wood with 5 thou more comeing on saturday, a litter of cubs liveing 50m from the pen their going in too, got 3 last night just got to get mum and the other cub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster223 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) just got 4000 delivered last wed 7 weeks old got an early day in October and currently got 3000 partridges on rearing field and getting another 5000 pheasants in the middle of this month Edited July 8, 2011 by Buster223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Got the last of mine today n look at all this rain :( not good at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 We put 4000 to wood this Thur & Fri, the catching up and wing clipping has killed me Just another 16k this coming week :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 we have put over 5000 out today that were 7 weeks old , i must say they all lokk very well so lets hope the weather is kind to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 update on my first lot to wood half have hexie (i ******* told the boss man to get more jollop for them but noooooo!!) half have **** of on a wee wander about the estate thanks to the head mans god getting in the pen so all good realy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 update on my first lot to wood half have hexie (i ******* told the boss man to get more jollop for them but noooooo!!) half have **** of on a wee wander about the estate thanks to the head mans god getting in the pen so all good realy what's hexie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Hexamita, not good goes through the pen like wildfire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Hexamita, not good goes through the pen like wildfire! yes not good , we lost over 3000 partridge last year that came with the disease. we tried to medicate but due to the rain and puddles it was impossible. The ones we put down yesterday are all doing well only lost 70 to a fox but he was shot this morning with one in his mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PheasantMan Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hexamita's Never good! Seemed to be everywhere last year especially in partridges. So far this year we have had no reports of hexamita in poults on the farm or in release pens. Although i think when people start taking partridges we may see higher infections i think the weather is a big factor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hexamita's Never good! Seemed to be everywhere last year especially in partridges. So far this year we have had no reports of hexamita in poults on the farm or in release pens. Although i think when people start taking partridges we may see higher infections i think the weather is a big factor! we always get a run of coxie in the partriges, one pen we have (the one in question) gets hexie every year with out fail. infact to be honest all our ground is stale and we get rota then coxie then maybe hexie then coxie again just before they go out :blink: the poor bloody things are never off medication. we have used 13 tubs of vets, 4 tubs of tetsol 11 bottles of baycox. and we have some new jollop in their now amprol? bring back emtrole ime running out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Partridges seem to be a bit of a nightmare when it comes to disease, I know of at least one big shoot that has gone from rearing their own frenchies to buying in poults, let someone else have the stress off picking up a feed bag of dead every morning. Maybe if we get a good prologed dry spell matters will improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestem Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) In the States, most birds are released as adults. This is generally done by commercial hunting preserves, so the economic/hunter satisfaction payoff is obvious. Here's my question, what kind of survival rates do you get when releasing 6-8 week poults? Thanks, Bluestem Edited August 14, 2011 by Bluestem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 In the States, most birds are released as adults. This is generally done by commercial hunting preserves, so the economic/hunter satisfaction payoff is obvious. Here's my question, what kind of survival rates do you get when releasing 6-8 week poults? Thanks, Bluestem we put down 14,000 pheasant 3000 partridge and 4000 duck and get 68% 5year av on pheasants 80% on duck and 40% oh the red legs so not too bad some get better some worse some alot worse!! we are realy realy hard on vernim hear thou, ym ex went to montana for a working holiday thingy and said they relise birds about 4 hourse befor they shoot them :blink: any longer and they get cleaned up by toothy critters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestem Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Very interesting. Thanks for the feedback. Most state game agencies parrot the 4-hour lifespan and stress habitat development. I suspect they are at least a little motivated to preserve their budgets for salaries.... Thanks again, Bluestem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Very interesting. Thanks for the feedback. Most state game agencies parrot the 4-hour lifespan and stress habitat development. I suspect they are at least a little motivated to preserve their budgets for salaries.... Thanks again, Bluestem four hours :blink: :blink: :blink: never, it cant be that bad shurely! they last longer on a walked up day with italians and thats saying some thing! ime not shure how i would feel about shooting game thats only been out the pen for a few hours, but i supose thats why every country wants a british game keeper we ARE the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I can see this from both sides - on one hand the "life" the birds get to live is better in the open, but the mortality figures are shocking to me. On the other hand they get no life so being in the open and facing the "real world" and the deaths that go with it is "natural". Interesting. Or is that just my sad little mind that thinks so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestem Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I think the agencies have ulterior motives for not wanting to stock birds, but we do have a lot of vermin to contend with. Coyotes, foxes and bobcats are formidible predators. When I guide on preserves, it's very common to roust a few pheasant even if there have only been chukars stocked for that day's event. In some cases, there will be a couple of weeks between hunts. After reading the sucess you have with poults, I'm wondering what our bird numbers would be like if the agencies were actually run by real gamekeepers considering our birds are the strict result of wild recruitment. Bluestem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I think the agencies have ulterior motives for not wanting to stock birds, but we do have a lot of vermin to contend with. Coyotes, foxes and bobcats are formidible predators. When I guide on preserves, it's very common to roust a few pheasant even if there have only been chukars stocked for that day's event. In some cases, there will be a couple of weeks between hunts. After reading the sucess you have with poults, I'm wondering what our bird numbers would be like if the agencies were actually run by real gamekeepers considering our birds are the strict result of wild recruitment. Bluestem almost every driven shoot over seas i have heard of have english keepers i dont know why but they do, a massiv percent of keepering is vermin controle,kill every thing that will kill/disturb game. from rats (a verry big preditor of game) to the bigger critters. the pther half is feeding, lots and lots and lots of feed we have a feed hopper every 100m in EVERY direction! over 300 feeders plus sreading wheat on the roads and lanes! just think of keeping 13,000+ birds in to 400achr of land and getting them to stay thier. well if your boys want a keeper on trial for a season,ile be free to move just now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestem Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Thanks for the snapshot of what it takes to effectively keep game. It makes a lot of sense. Over here, folks plant a few foodplots (millet, sunflower etc) and wonder why there aren't more birds. What you are saying confirms my suspicion, vermin control is the key. If I find a preserve looking for a manager, I'll point them your way HS. Bluestem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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