zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) Any one on here go/have been Gull shooting? Looking for some tips on this as it is getting towards the time of year. Edited July 24, 2011 by zak_plk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Gull shooting ???? Am I just bieng stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 What type of gull can you shoot legaly? I thought they were all protected, tell me they`re not, we have some common gull need sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) i think you can still shoot lesser and great black backed gulls, but not herring gulls anymore which is strange because there are more herring gulls than black backed gulls. but i find the post a bit weird, actually setting out to shoot gulls, and what does its that time of year meen :blink: Edited July 24, 2011 by yickdaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 You can only shoot the Lesser Black-backed gull ONLY not the Great Back-blacked gull. Is the an easy way to identify them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 What type of gull can you shoot legaly? I thought they were all protected, tell me they`re not, we have some common gull need sorted Read your general licence http://www.basc.org.uk/en/shooting/general-licences.cfm follow the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 i think you can still shoot lesser and great black backed gulls, but not herring gulls anymore which is strange because there are more herring gulls than black backed gulls. but i find the post a bit weird, actually setting out to shoot gulls, and what does its that time of year meen :blink: The lesser black-backed gull moves more inland in winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Go shoot some clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 The lesser black-backed gull moves more inland in winter You still need to have a reason for shooting them and can show that other non-lethal means have been tried to get rid of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Go shoot some clays. thats an odd comment. anything else on the general licence you dont approve of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 You still need to have a reason for shooting them and can show that other non-lethal means have been tried to get rid of them. The same as pigeons!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 You can shoot less black-backed gulls if you are trying to conserve other flora and fauna, I expect they are on the list so gamekeepers can prevent them taking young game birds. Do you have a reason to shoot them? I'm not having a go, I'm just interested in your motivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 You can shoot less black-backed gulls if you are trying to conserve other flora and fauna, I expect they are on the list so gamekeepers can prevent them taking young game birds. Do you have a reason to shoot them? I'm not having a go, I'm just interested in your motivation. Not me personally but me and few guys were talking about it and no one really knew about identifying them. One of the guys is a land owner who has game birds, but he is too old to know what a computer so i though as i have just joined thought it would be a good first post. But what i will say is the gull is on the general licence under the same category as pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Lesser black backed gulls are the only gull still on the list. Herring gulls and Greater black backed gulls have been removed. It is very difficult to tell the difference between a lesser black backed and a greater black backed gull. Have a look at Google Images and see. Rather than make a mistake, it is simpler not to bother shooting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Just for the record, under WML-GL05 (LICENCE (General)To kill or take certain birds to preserve public health or public safety) you can still destroy the nests or eggs of Herring Gulls, but not kill the birds. This provision isn't in the other two commonly used General Licences: WML-GL04 (prevent damage & disease) or WML-GL06 (conserve flora & fauna). I suspect the provision is there in case you have a GENUINE problem with Herring Gulls around airfields etc. Of course if you have a GENUINE problem with Herring Gulls in any other situation you can always apply for a special licence - on the other hand if you just want to shoot them because they are there it's probably best to give them a miss and stay safely within the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Not me personally but me and few guys were talking about it and no one really knew about identifying them. One of the guys is a land owner who has game birds, but he is too old to know what a computer so i though as i have just joined thought it would be a good first post. But what i will say is the gull is on the general licence under the same category as pigeon. To clarify, they are not in the same catagory as woodpigeons, only feral pigeons and corvids. Woodpigeons are on the licence for crop protection and health reasons and lesser black-backed gulls are on there for conservation of flora and fauna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 To clarify, they are not in the same catagory as woodpigeons, only feral pigeons and corvids. Woodpigeons are on the licence for crop protection and health reasons and lesser black-backed gulls are on there for conservation of flora and fauna. There are many General Licences. You should take a look at GL04 (crop damage & disease), GL05 (public health & safety) and GL06 (conserve flora & fauna). Lesser Black-backed gull is in all three. I am not encouraging anyone to go out shooting gulls, but just clarifying the actual legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 There are many General Licences. You should take a look at GL04 (crop damage & disease), GL05 (public health & safety) and GL06 (conserve flora & fauna). Lesser Black-backed gull is in all three. I am not encouraging anyone to go out shooting gulls, but just clarifying the actual legislation. You're abosutely right, my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 A keen bird watcher we talked to on one of our permissions told us that the lesser balck backed gull has yellow legs and the greater black backed and herring gulls have pinky-grey lags Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) Talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Go shoot some clays. You obviously havent seen a black back gull pecking the eyes and **** out of a sheep then fella.I would much prefer shooting gulls than clays. As for tips for shooting them.We set up at quite a long range as they can be wary,where you know they are a problem and use the rifle on them.The old fella used to shoot loads like this as they were very destructive during lambing. Edited July 24, 2011 by sako751sg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster123 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 you can apply for the licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushies Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 If it's in Scotland you can sill shoot the Great Black Backed Gull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yer we were at the Holkham country fair and ask the RSPB hot to identify them but she would not tell us as we were going to bang bang them. Well we got a discussion going now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak_plk Posted July 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 If it's in Scotland you can sill shoot the Great Black Backed Gull. I haven't read the scotish licences but I did see something on BASC that all Gulls have been removed from the scotish licence for 2011. But I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Holt Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) I haven't read the scotish licences but I did see something on BASC that all Gulls have been removed from the scotish licence for 2011. But I am not sure. here you go http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Environment/Wildlife-Habitats/16330/general-licences/licence2011 Great black backs (pink legs) are still on it, Edited July 25, 2011 by Davy Holt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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