roadside dear

[brutaldeluxe]

Hi there, whilst driving to work this morning I passed a large doe on the side of the road, unfortunately my car was pretty full so had no room to put it in, otherwise the freezer wouldver had a nice addition. What is the legality of picking up this deer? Waste not want not imho. But if an anti were to drive by and report me would I be in the wrong? Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

[gixer1]

an old dear or a 4 legged deer? Edited September 25, 2011 by gixer1

[wymberley]

an old dear or a 4 legged deer?

I'd have thought a roadside dear that was old would have retired by now.

[Imperfection]

I saw Hugh Fernley Whittingstall taking roadkill on one of his programmes so i'd say it must be legal.Anyway,it saves the council/highways agency having to collect and incinerate it.

[provarmint]

Deer become the property of the land owner it dies on, roadkill will be Highways Auth or however owns the land at the side of the road.

[Harnser]

Over the years I have picked up several road kill deer off the side of the road . Some times just to clear them up and some times to take home for the freezer . Do you know what ? I have never been stopped or challenged . If it hasent been squished take it home . If anybody does challenge me then I will share it with them .

 

Harnser .

Edited September 25, 2011 by Harnser

[semiautolee]

the law is (i think) if you run it over then you are not allowed to pick it up and you have to leave it!!

 

but if you are in the car behind the person that ran it over then you can stop and pick it up and take it home!!

 

hope this helps

Edited September 25, 2011 by semiautolee

[Beardo]

That law does not exist.

There are numerous threads one this subject if you do a search

[gixer1]

It always surprises me when people eat road kill, if you are walking across a road and a bright set of headlights appear about to smack into you, you will tend to tense up and adrenaline will instantly course through your body....deer will be the same, it will most likely taint it.

 

Also the point that if you happen upon said deer how long has it been dead? has a mangy flea bitten fox or dog been licking it's rectum then said deer's wounds or mouth?

 

I know it's likely to be just fine but is it worth it for a haunch or two? :blink: if a stomach and diaphram is ruptured I really wouldn't want some of the nasty bugs that li e in a stomach in the meat I was eating!

 

Regards,

Gixer

Edited September 25, 2011 by gixer1

[Dekers]

It always surprises me when people eat road kill, if you are walking across a road and a bright set of headlights appear about to smack into you, you will tend to tense up and adrenaline will instantly course through your body....deer will be the same, it will most likely taint it.

 

Also the point that if you happen upon said deer how long has it been dead? has a mangy flea bitten fox or dog been licking it's rectum then said deer's wounds or mouth?

 

I know it's likely to be just fine but is it worth it for a haunch or two? :blink: if a stomach and diaphram is ruptured I really wouldn't want some of the nasty bugs that li e in a stomach in the meat I was eating!

 

Regards,

Gixer

 

 

 

But I know its NOT likely to be fine, you need to gralloch a deer before it hits the ground, a deer bleeds big time, and it doesn't matter if you shoot it in the head, heart or **** it bleeds, and the chest cavity fills up with blood. This WILL taint the meat and congeal very quickly.

 

Imagine the likely injuries an a road kill deer, add to that the time since death, bowel/stomach splits, flies etc and you are welcome to it!

 

ATB!

[apache]

You'll die or become very ill if a vet has just put it down with lethal injection and notified the highways agency to dispose of the body as is the correct procedure.

 

If you are so hungry you have to eat things you find dead by the side of the road you have my sympathy.

[al4x]

if you hit it or see it hit its one thing, collecting one of unknown age off the side of the road is for mugs, thats because for starters it could have been injected and secondly if the stomache etc isn't removed fast in this weather they go off very quickly

[Beardo]

It always surprises me when people eat road kill, if you are walking across a road and a bright set of headlights appear about to smack into you, you will tend to tense up and adrenaline will instantly course through your body....deer will be the same, it will most likely taint it.

 

surely a deer will do the same when hit by a bullet (unless it's a head/neck/spine shot) - hence why the often run a fair way - therefore most deer is tainted with adrenaline. i've never been a believer in that argument.

however, i wouldn't want to eat a roadkill deer, massive internal haemorrhaging and bacterial contamination are the reasons.

[al4x]

we used to have a fair few as kids, but dad was the vet on call so shot them. It all depends where they were hit, a lot seem to be front end and not puncture the rumen when the haunches were fine. Can't say I noticed anything taste wise amiss

[Dunkield]

you need to gralloch a deer before it hits the ground,

I would like to see that done

[grasshopper]

 

you need to gralloch a deer before it hits the ground,

 

 

I would like to see that done

 

:lol: That's just what i was thinkin :blink: off to check the BASC website for details of any courses they're running

[gixer1]

surely a deer will do the same when hit by a bullet (unless it's a head/neck/spine shot) - hence why the often run a fair way - therefore most deer is tainted with adrenaline. i've never been a believer in that argument.

however, i wouldn't want to eat a roadkill deer, massive internal haemorrhaging and bacterial contamination are the reasons.

 

 

A deer sees the car coming though, it doesn't normally know it's been shot till it goes dark therefore the tensing up/fight or flight thing hasn't had the same time to effect the animal physically...

 

I think the message here should be "don't eat dead things you find by chance"

 

Regards,

 

Gixer

[Dunkield]

A deer sees the car coming though,

The one I hit didn't

If only I hd my knife with me I could have gralloched it in mid air - oh well, maybe next time

 

ATB

 

:good:

[955i]

A deer sees the car coming though

I would think they don't a lot of the time otherwise they would get out of the way.

 

Everyone I know who has hit one says they have just appeared over a hedge in front of the car, so no time for reaction from either party.

[CharlieT]

surely a deer will do the same when hit by a bullet (unless it's a head/neck/spine shot) - hence why the often run a fair way - therefore most deer is tainted with adrenaline. i've never been a believer in that argument.

however, i wouldn't want to eat a roadkill deer, massive internal haemorrhaging and bacterial contamination are the reasons.

 

 

I must say that I have never been able to taste the the difference when one has been running. I eat quite a lot of venison from deer that have been hunted and therefore have run for many miles, they don't taste any different to me.

[gixer1]

I would think they don't a lot of the time otherwise they would get out of the way.

 

Everyone I know who has hit one says they have just appeared over a hedge in front of the car, so no time for reaction from either party.

 

 

But usually before someone runs into you/punches you/you get hit by a football, you tense up and adrenalin starts, even though it's a fraction of a second, it floods your muscle...(and actually sometimes helps make injuries more severe apparently - a lot of people claim if you come off a motorcycle at high speed the best thing to do is try to stay loose and go with it..)

 

Whereas with a bullet the deer doesn't know, it's been hit before it hears anything and even then doesn't know if it's a bad or good thing...

 

Quite a few of the deer i've shot have run towards me so the obviously had no idea what they were running from/to I guess....

 

Regards,

 

Gixer

Edited September 26, 2011 by gixer1

[semiautolee]

But usually before someone runs into you/punches you/you get hit by a football, you tense up and adrenalin starts, even though it's a fraction of a second, it floods your muscle...(and actually sometimes helps make injuries more severe apparently - a lot of people claim if you come off a motorcycle at high speed the best thing to do is try to stay loose and go with it..)

 

Whereas with a bullet the deer doesn't know, it's been hit before it hears anything and even then doesn't know if it's a bad or good thing...

 

Quite a few of the deer i've shot have run towards me so the obviously had no idea what they were running from/to I guess....

 

Regards,

 

Gixer

 

 

well said gixer :yes: i agree

[apache]

Let me clear up the adrenaline thing - if a deer is hit by a car front end and killed instantly (or within minutes) then it is no different to being shot. If the animal was non-fatally injured or had a slow death then the adrenalin will cause the meat not to 'set'. In the old days if a sheep broke it's leg it would be left quietly in a pen overnight and then slaughtered, to do it straight away when it had been moved would cause the massive stress reaction and failure of the carcase to set, by the next day it would be fine.

 

Make sense?

[Harnser]

I would like to see that done

Gut shoot it with a 375 H and H magnum .

 

Harnser .

[colin lad]

Gut shoot it with a 375 H and H magnum .

 

Harnser .

 

i did once shoot a pigeon and filleted the breasts off before it hit the ground :lol:

 

colin