rabbit_stu Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hi All, Having done plenty of research and asked on here about my first rifle, i had made up my mind on a .22lr but haven spoken to someone last night im up in the air again. I know its always a huge debate between the two and i'd be best to try them first but looking purely at cost whats the difference. Im going to be shooting rabbits mainly, probably once or twice a week. Whats the difference in rifle price and the cost of rounds? Thanks in advance Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) 22LR is maybe £50-60 for 1000 rounds, 17hmr is maybe £12 per 50. 22LR rifles start from £30 used with decent CZ's £200-300, 17hmrs are £300+ used. Edited October 18, 2011 by SittingBull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Haha I'm having the same dilemma. Whatever you do don't shoot an HMR!!! I was all set for a 22LR but shot a mates 17 and it's just so deadly accurate. Ammo cost is an issue as HMR ammo is around three times the price. But weigh that up against accuracy and range and maybe that's a fair trade. I'm asking for both, 17 for day. 22 for night. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hi All, Having done plenty of research and asked on here about my first rifle, i had made up my mind on a .22lr but haven spoken to someone last night im up in the air again. I know its always a huge debate between the two and i'd be best to try them first but looking purely at cost whats the difference. Im going to be shooting rabbits mainly, probably once or twice a week. Whats the difference in rifle price and the cost of rounds? Thanks in advance Stuart If you are buying new there is no difference in price, second hand the hmr is a bit more expensive depending on what model you buy. The real difference is in the price of the bullets. You would pay on average £3.80 for 50 winchester subs for your 22 or anything between £10-£15 for 50 Hornady 17g hmr rounds. If you can stalk close in to the rabbits you cant beat the 22 for accurate cheap shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit_stu Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Haha I'm having the same dilemma. Whatever you do don't shoot an HMR!!! I was all set for a 22LR but shot a mates 17 and it's just so deadly accurate. Ammo cost is an issue as HMR ammo is around three times the price. But weigh that up against accuracy and range and maybe that's a fair trade. I'm asking for both, 17 for day. 22 for night. Simples. Ive just finished filling in my application, with exactly that in mind. .177 for day time, .22 for night. But untill i save enough for the second rifle i still have to make a choice! thanks for the replies guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ive just finished filling in my application, with exactly that in mind. .177 for day time, .22 for night. But untill i save enough for the second rifle i still have to make a choice! thanks for the replies guys Remember for your paperwork its ".17HMR" not ".177" as that's an air rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 With the benefit of hindsight, having got my FAC earlier in the year and only asked for 22lr, I wish I'd gone for 17hmr for daytime use, easier to shoot rabbits at better distances accurately due to its flatter trajectory. Using a moderated 22lr and subs at night, you'll have the added expense of some sort of night vision or lamp arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hi All, Having done plenty of research and asked on here about my first rifle, i had made up my mind on a .22lr but haven spoken to someone last night im up in the air again. I know its always a huge debate between the two and i'd be best to try them first but looking purely at cost whats the difference. Im going to be shooting rabbits mainly, probably once or twice a week. Whats the difference in rifle price and the cost of rounds? Thanks in advance Stuart hi,as stated there is very little differance in the price of guns,new or second hand,but ammo massive differance.I bought .17 first ,but for night work bought .22 as it is alot quieter,also distance is to think about,if its long range work .17. Anything up to 80yds i would say .22 cheers dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 You don't need to state that you want one for day and one for night, I have both and wouldn't be without either. The HMR is superb and its range and accuracy is amazing but it is very easily affected by the wind. I use my HMR when the weathers a bit quiet and I need the extra range whereas I tend to use the .22lr when its windy as its easier to shoot and the wind normally allows you close enough to the rabbits to achieve a clean kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 ROUGH GUIDE .22lr, MASSIVE range of ammo from about 30ft lb to 200+ft lb, and shotshells. Normal sub sonic hunting ammo is VERY quiet and costs about £6-£10 per 100 Normal hunting range up to about 60yards, perfectly capable up to 100yards with the right ammo and shooter. HMR, VERY limited range of ammo, and excels with the 17g ballistic tips. VERY NOISY in comparison with sub sonic .22lr (even with a mod fitted) range easily 100 yards and in the right conditions with the right shooter an everyday 150yard tool. Ammo price approx £18-£28 per 100. Cost of rifles at new is the same! It is not commonly an either or question, it is commonly a BOTH question. One is NOT better than the other, they are DIFFERENT, and you need to decide which best suits your needs.....I have both, and a .22WMR as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Ive just finished filling in my application, with exactly that in mind. .177 for day time, .22 for night. But untill i save enough for the second rifle i still have to make a choice! thanks for the replies guys get 22 1st as with your 1st rifle you will want to get out and start blasting some targets then move onto the bunnies you will find it easy to get through 500 or 1000 rounds in a couple of months with that in mind and the price of hmr ammo so will be able to save up for your second gun a lot quicker running the cheaper rifle 1st if that makes sense, ps i have both and if i had to give one up i would keep the 22lr as its my main work horse and i love shooting it colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 ROUGH GUIDE .22lr, MASSIVE range of ammo from about 30ft lb to 200+ft lb, and shotshells. Normal sub sonic hunting ammo is VERY quiet and costs about £6-£10 per 100 Normal hunting range up to about 60yards, perfectly capable up to 100yards with the right ammo and shooter. HMR, VERY limited range of ammo, and excels with the 17g ballistic tips. VERY NOISY in comparison with sub sonic .22lr (even with a mod fitted) range easily 100 yards and in the right conditions with the right shooter an everyday 150yard tool. Ammo price approx £18-£28 per 100. Cost of rifles at new is the same! It is not commonly an either or question, it is commonly a BOTH question. One is NOT better than the other, they are DIFFERENT, and you need to decide which best suits your needs.....I have both, and a .22WMR as well! Dekers not wanting to take over the thread but a quick question. i have 22lr and hmr but like the idea of trying a wmr but what reason would i put on variation for as to why i need hmr and wmr in case they say both are similar?? thanks colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 why not put down for both the 22lr is very good as they both are but it tends to bounce bullets about very scary if you dont no where there going the hmr do s it a lot less but rounds are more costly on a personel note i think 22lr at nite is better just my thoughts tho and hmr long range in day time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Dekers not wanting to take over the thread but a quick question. i have 22lr and hmr but like the idea of trying a wmr but what reason would i put on variation for as to why i need hmr and wmr in case they say both are similar?? thanks colin You have PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Definitely get both. You've got 5 years to buy the second gun before your ticket comes up for renewal. Make sure you ask for a moderator for each calibre as a seperate item. Be very careful how you go with the bouncy .22lr if you're inexperienced. There's lots of places on my ground where its unusable. Having both gives you so many more options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit_stu Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thanks for all these replies, for the FAC form... whats a sensible ammo amout for both rifles, buy and to store, an will i be using expanding ammo. i know what it is but will i need it? is it work putting anyway. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) .22 - possess=600 acquire=500 .17HMR - possess=600 acquire=500 Edited October 19, 2011 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Anyone mentioned the ricochet issue ?I am going back to HMR as a feel more confident it is the safer round . Especially in the dry spell with hard ground I got put off using .22 rf in one area I shoot because of the risks . The HMR can bounce but much less likely than .22 rf .I plan to get a .22 rf semi for range use however . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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