ferreter10 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Always had a really old RWS always done me well, but recently it's really inconsistent. Had it chrono ed, highest of 11.5, lowest of 7.2. Want a cheap springer that's practical and doesn't need TLC. Looked at Gamo's... Are they anygood? Or can someone suggest anything of a similar price (120-160) thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) I have an underlever Gamo CFX 16J (11.7ft/lbs) pretty good and accurate with a bit of practice. Cost new was £215 plus scope. (I'm looking for £150) Edited to correct the Model number, it is CFX 16J Edited November 29, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garden gun Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 We run Gamos - Magnum 3000 and Whisper X. Both break barrels, mine has a Hawke scope and Mrs Gun has a Gamo scope (4 X 32s). Both in .22 and we use RWS pellets. Local squirrels, corvids, rats and the odd woodie don't like it up 'em. The Whisper is a doddle to cock (double spring set up) and is moderated. Sometimes you can get a second or even third shot in as it is dead quiet and the business end. Both bought brand spankers at CLA Game Fairs at just under £250 all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Struggling to find anything on gamo Sfx, but lots on the gamo cfx. Is that a typo? And with regard to the whisper x, I like the look of it as a tool and with the sound being so low, it would be ideal in the orchids where I got permission. Are the RWS pellets heavy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Got a classic,Bsa mercury .22,tight grouping at 20yrds zero,all been refinished so looks brand new,action not tampered with and it has a 4x20 scope,so ideal rat stopper,open to offers Edited November 29, 2011 by vampire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks for the offer vampire, but would like to get a plastic stock.... Less things for me to dent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Always had a really old RWS always done me well, but recently it's really inconsistent. Had it chrono ed, highest of 11.5, lowest of 7.2. Want a cheap springer that's practical and doesn't need TLC. Looked at Gamo's... Are they anygood? Or can someone suggest anything of a similar price (120-160) thanks Despite what it may suggest or even say, not many FULL POWER Gamo make it past 10ft lb, and some are even rated lower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Try and stretch your budget and get a secondhand Weihrauch HW80 or HW77 is my advice! ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbsguy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) You might want to have a look at protek supplies, there are always a couple of hw's on there for a descent price http://www.proteksupplies.co.uk/page5.html Edited November 29, 2011 by durbsguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks guys, I'll have a look. I borrowed a friends hw100 (the PCP one I think) and I must admit it was superb. Are the springers just as good? I mean I am no marksman, but I was hitting 9/10 bottle caps at 50 yard! So peoples advice is that gamo are less accurate and powerful? I suppose it's another case of " good thing no cheap, cheap thing no good" haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Always had a really old RWS always done me well, but recently it's really inconsistent. Had it chrono ed, highest of 11.5, lowest of 7.2. Want a cheap springer that's practical and doesn't need TLC. Looked at Gamo's... Are they anygood? Or can someone suggest anything of a similar price (120-160) thanks I think the Weirauch HW99s is a good tough rifle , had mine a few weeks and find it accurate and good power from the box . Kills bunnies 30-40 yards no problem and is light , I carry it for 3 hours , with no problems . Weight is a big factor if you plan to walk round for hours . Stock is very tough I can vouch for that too . Pay £208 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Would have to agree with bullet boy have a look for a HW77k or a HW80k both very well made rifles near enough bomb proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Lanberini, where was that you got your 99 from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Would have to agree with bullet boy have a look for a HW77k or a HW80k both very well made rifles near enough bomb proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks guys, I'll have a look. I borrowed a friends hw100 (the PCP one I think) and I must admit it was superb. Are the springers just as good? I mean I am no marksman, but I was hitting 9/10 bottle caps at 50 yard! So peoples advice is that gamo are less accurate and powerful? I suppose it's another case of " good thing no cheap, cheap thing no good" haha If you want to buy for a PCP then they are not cheap as you originally wanted a cheap springer? There are some quality PCP rifles available but quality don't come cheap!It all depends on your budget for rifle,scope and charging bottle or Pump. Any more questions just let us know. ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 No I don't want PCP too expensive, I was just saying that particular weihrauch was exceptional. I take it the springers won't be anywhere near as good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Lanberini, where was that you got your 99 from? McAvoys in Standish , but you can get them down south for similar price . I looked at PCP option and you need a bit of cash to get up and running .For S200 air arms as an example £350 for the rifle , £70 for scope+mounts , Bottle and charging accessories = £200 Total= £670 Springers take a bit more to get used to firing ie. light grip and recoil effects but I think you have a reliable unit in the field . I practise on targets and you soon find the balance for shooting on target . I was up and running for £272 including 1000 pellets . Had my first rabbit 6 hours after buying it though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Springers are just as accurate as PCPs but harder to shoot. This makes them much more rewarding for some people. I use 5p sized targets with my springers up to 45 yards - at 12fp you don't need anything more accurate than that! You do largely get what you pay for though, and decent springers do benefit from being tuned, which is £50 upwards if you fit a tuning kit yourself (although you can do a basic tune by polishing the internals and re-greasing for next to nothing). I have enjoyed shooting a Gamo underleaver, I enjoy shooting with a CZ (in your price range) a Cometa 300 (which is less than £200) and too many BSAs to mention, but I would honestly say go for a Weihrauch. Loads of tuning kit available, made to last and easier to shoot accurately than other springers due to their smoothness. £200 ish for a 99 is a bargain IMHO. You could pick up a 77 or 80 and get years out of it. On a different note; have you tried Chambers to see if you can rebuild your old RWS? Might be the cheapest option, and you always shoot best with the gun you know. Edited November 29, 2011 by Wharf Rat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Wow that is a detailed reply! Much appreciated in taking time to help me make the right decision. Your right about the PCP, bit too expensive for bot of rabbiting. I think weihrauch is the way to go then, many people sing their praises. I'm sure I could stretch my budget to 200, so if anyone sees a goodun At a good price.... give me a bloody shout! . As regard to the RWS, I will admit I dropped it and it's been unreliable ever since. To be honest, I fancy a change aswell so Deffo looking for a new/second hand gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbsguy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 No I don't want PCP too expensive, I was just saying that particular weihrauch was exceptional. I take it the springers won't be anywhere near as good? Put it this way I have a daystate airwolf and a hw80+97 and to be honest the springers are the way forward and the ones that are used all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 do you think its better to have an under lever or a break barrel, as i beleive you have one of each durbsguy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I believe the theory is that with a break barrel there can be a degree of varience in the barrel location/seating (and therefore aim) eachtime you break & close the barrel to load a pellet. Personally I think a break barrel would have to be pretty worn for this to occurr. With a fixed barrel, pellet is loaded into a breach and barrel position in relation to sights never alters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garden gun Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 RWS are 14.5 gr - a lot of lead, but they pack a punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 No I don't want PCP too expensive, I was just saying that particular weihrauch was exceptional. I take it the springers won't be anywhere near as good? My advice would be to take a trip down to your local Gun Shop and look at the Weihrauch HW77 or HW80 as I previously advised.The HW77 is an underlever and the HW80 is a break-barrel,both these guns are of extreme quality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Always had a really old RWS always done me well, but recently it's really inconsistent. Had it chrono ed, highest of 11.5, lowest of 7.2. Want a cheap springer that's practical and doesn't need TLC. Looked at Gamo's... Are they anygood? Or can someone suggest anything of a similar price (120-160) thanks RWS 45 by chance? Get if fixed if so, don't bother buying rubbish turish tat and the likes to replace it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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