flytie Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Just reading an american site on deer rifles/calibres and came across this discription, it made me wince "However, one cannot expect to take 'Texas heart shots' at the south end of a north bound deer and expect a 100 grain 6mm bullet to travel through 4 or 5 feet of flesh and bones". oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh nasty! Ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 All I can say is, DONT DO IT In the states, they have the ease of buying large calibre rifles, and this type of stupid shot is possible. I would never consider it out of respect for the animal, and the sheer pointless ness of it. If you shoot a deer like that, you rupture all the internals spoiling the meat, and making a big mess of everything. All you have to do is wait quietly untill the animal has turned in the right position for a good clean heart/lung or neck shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 All I can say is, DONT DO IT In the states, they have the ease of buying large calibre rifles, and this type of stupid shot is possible. I would never consider it out of respect for the animal, and the sheer pointless ness of it. If you shoot a deer like that, you rupture all the internals spoiling the meat, and making a big mess of everything. All you have to do is wait quietly untill the animal has turned in the right position for a good clean heart/lung or neck shot. I have seen deer that have been shot like that and it aint a pretty sight. I can't figure out why they do it I turned down a shot at a Roebuck last week as it didn't offer a good shot (it was facing away and offered a briiliant texas heart shot).....There's always another day so i let it go on after watching it through the scope for a minute or 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 People who take these shots are nothing but trigGer happy, dont get out much, BAFOONS!!. They should not have firearms, just play station games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 The worst thing i ever heard coming over from the states was from a mate who was doing some stalking in Scotland with 2 americans in another group. When he asked if they had shot anything they said no but we had a few "Sound shots"... he asked what the hell that was and they said that in america if they hear something moving in the bush they shoot at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewyjack.22 Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 People who take these shots are nothing but trigGer happy, dont get out much, BAFOONS!!. They should not have firearms, just play station games. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I did a THS on a Rabbit with a Rimmy recently. It was messy. I could only see its ears and thought it was the other way around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I did a THS on a Rabbit with a Rimmy recently.It was messy. I could only see its ears and thought it was the other way around You should allways make sure of your quarys position before taking the shot humanely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 In the states their seasons are very short and they usually have a lot of hunters using the same ground, up there due to the hunting presure it's a case of shoot the first thing you see as you probably wont get a second chance and with the price of game tags they don’t want to come home empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Thats very true speedy. The season is so short if they choose not to take the shot then they might not get another chance in the season and the all money lost. So due to the short seasons it makes people do things they otherwise wouldnt. Not an excuse but see how some people may be tempted to take stupid shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 The worst thing i ever heard coming over from the states was from a mate who was doing some stalking in Scotland with 2 americans in another group. When he asked if they had shot anything they said no but we had a few "Sound shots"... he asked what the hell that was and they said that in america if they hear something moving in the bush they shoot at it and see it as a safe shot. Do you people really believe that this is the norm, and that a THS is an accepted shot in the Americas? Saftey is very heavily stressed and if you are caught doing unsafe things you loose your guns and your right to hunt or fish. I would not go judgeing an entire countries sportsman by the actions of a few iddiots. And as for the orange it is a safty issue and a very good idea, the animals do not see it as we do, it comes off in the gray tones of the vision. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Do you people really believe that this is the norm, and that a THS is an accepted shot in the Americas? Saftey is very heavily stressed and if you are caught doing unsafe things you loose your guns and your right to hunt or fish. I would not go judgeing an entire countries sportsman by the actions of a few iddiots. Only saying it how i heard it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Sorry Gibby that was not directed at you personally, was just using the example you put forward.....which was probably a wind up.....or at least I hope it was. My point is there are a majority of safe responsible shooters in the United States, and in Canada, and in Great Britain, why feed the antis, with this stuff. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 As I have said many times before, don't believe all you read, or hear, about shooting overseas. Wait until you have been there, met some hunters , perhaps had the chance to do some shooting, before commenting. Overseas shooting (USA, Canada and Europe especially), is regulated far stricter than it is in this country. Their activities are policed by Wildlife Officers, are ours ? None of us would agree that the majority of UK shooters are irresponsible, so why do we suggest that such irresponsible behaviour is the norm elsewhere. In my opinion we should be careful of what myths we perpetuate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Well stated Cranfield NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Please excuse my ignorance but can somebody explain exactly what a Texas heart shot is ? I've never heard of it. Am I right in thinking (after reading thread) that it means that the selected deer or other animal is shot in the **** hoping that the bullet will penetrate to the heart ? Do people really do that ? It must be incredibly risky. Hope I've got the wrong end of the stick. cheers Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted May 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Please excuse my ignorance but can somebody explain exactly what a Texas heart shot is ? I've never heard of it. Am I right in thinking (after reading thread) that it means that the selected deer or other animal is shot in the **** hoping that the bullet will penetrate to the heart ? Do people really do that ? It must be incredibly risky. Hope I've got the wrong end of the stick. cheers Leeboy It appears Leeboy, that you are holding the stick at the correct end Makes you feel queasy, dosn't it Ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Yep, it does !! Dont think I ever want to see that. IMHO that is so disrespectful !! I cant imagine that sort of shot is pulled off successfully very often. I also cant imagine wanting to kill something that desperately that i'd consider taking a shot like that. I've never stalked or shot a deer. It is however a burning ambition to do so. I reckon that is the sort of thing that will get it all banned before I ever get the chance !! regards Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 You would be surprised at the sort of shots that people take when a presented with a deer. Up the A**e in the back leg gut shot etc etc it does happen but it shouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Sambar deer down here are very spooky animals that live in incredibly thick cover and you normally only have about 3-5 seconds to make a shot. I have hunted them on 3 occasions and only caught a glimpse of one twice. The 1st time I chose not to shoot, as it disappearing behind some timber and the shot was unsafe, the second time was when there was a crash behind me and by the time I turned around it was gone. If the only shot that I get at one is at it’s rusty sheriff’s badge as it disappears into the scrub I will take it, but then again that’s why I bought a 375H&H for the job. That being said it is not something I would do normally on most of the game that I hunt but with the right equipment and the right reason I’m not opposed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Hi speedy, I haven't got the experience or time behind the trigger to argue with you, but it sounds really iffy to me. I did read your posts ref the 375 h&h though and its a pretty impressive gun/cal and capable of taking proper big game. I would be interested to know what sort of range a Texas heart shot would be taken at. no offence intended, just curious. Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I did a THS on a Rabbit with a Rimmy recently. It was messy. I could only see its ears and thought it was the other way around You should allways make sure of your quarys position before taking the shot humanely. Don't be so po-faced Some of you guys comments, butter wouldn't melt in your mouths! If you're shooting Rabbits in the twilight, like I was, then its possible to get them the wrong way round. It would've been a nice head shot. It was humanely dead whichever way, it simply made cleaning it messy. Vermin control is just that. The client wants dead rabbits. I deliver. Anyway, it turned out to be a Texas Heart Shot and whatever you think of the ethics, it kills dead which was the object of granting me the permission in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I'd second that been there done it when out controlling rabbits for pest control, when they don't give you another shot you have to take whats going. With the HMR its pretty humane. With deer its not something I'd choose to do but I guess you never know all the details and its easy to judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I'd second that been there done it when out controlling rabbits for pest control, when they don't give you another shot you have to take whats going. With the HMR its pretty humane.With deer its not something I'd choose to do but I guess you never know all the details and its easy to judge I'd do it to a deer if it was injured or sick. Like you say, it depends on the circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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