HDAV Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_2350000/newsid_2358000/2358059.stm No thats pretty bad journalism........so bad I am thinking of making a complaint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Dear BBC...I would like .50 Desert Eagle as I have seen a rat in my garden. Please could you tell the police that I am a good person to own a gun. What a croc of ****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul87 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) No harm mate but what are you doing reading the childrens news? Ok, maybe they should not be misinforming kids but the only real mistake is that they refer to handguns. Perhaps instead of making a complaint just point out the mistakes and ask them to word it better. To be fair if the first paragraph said "It is completely illegal to own a handgun although you may have a Shotgun or Rifle If you can prove you are going to use it to kill vermin like rats, or it is an antique type gun. You need a licence to buy a gun. Depending on what type of gun you want, you need to do different things to get a licence." instead of "It is completely illegal to own a handgun unless you can prove you use it to kill vermin like rats, or it is an antique type gun. You need a licence to buy a gun. Depending on what type of gun you want, you need to do different things to get a licence." It is short because it is aimed at kids and doesn't go into too much depth of explanation. Edited December 22, 2011 by paul87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Thats a really good idea Paul perhaps you could send it to them as it's a very nice re write. BTW it popped up as i was searching for something else I dont usually read CBBC..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Clarke Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Some of this information on the kiddies BBC is truly shocking in its inaccuracy. The BASC press office has tried numerous times over the last few years to get this changed via everything from email to semaphore and carrier pigeon . Please feel free to join us and lodge a complaint with the BBC. Rgeards and best wishes for Christmas. Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 I have sent this and copied BASC in I wish to complain about your miss representation on guns contained in an accessible page from 2002 on the CBBC news round site which is intended to influence young people! You have used an image of a hand gun and then state for use killing rats. Hand guns would not be used for this purpose but clearly you had chosen an emotive image to propagate your own anti agenda. There is no balance in your article and I doubt very much if you have ever consulted the British Association for Shooting and Conservation to get any guidance and information on what the responsible shooting community is about. The BBC is funded by the public and as such has a duty to promote balance and not use its pipeline into homes to spread its own message. There are a great many young people who participate in safe shooting sports such as air guns and clay shooting. They need access to fact not fiction in order to grow into responsible adults and based on this web page they certainly will not get it from the BBC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 We have made, yet another, formal complaint to the BBC today David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boristhedog Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Without wishing to hi-jack this thread, I spotted a similarly poor BBC page on their 'shooting' sports page - My link Nice full bore rifles.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 pov@bbc.co.uk might be worth an email too I am going to email them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Guys we need folk to e mail the BBC dont leave it to BASC alone, your voice counts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 PAv I agree, If only half the people who read this were to make a complaint/comment: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/ Then i think there would be a record number of complaints. They will probably just pull the page but i believe that would be better! IT seems the BASC were aware of this page and had contacted the BBC previously i would hope some complaints would make something happen. Without wishing to hi-jack this thread, I spotted a similarly poor BBC page on their 'shooting' sports page - My link Nice full bore rifles.... LOL thats not too bad they used the same graphic for small bore and full bore but the pistol info page is pretty poor as is the clay one (particularly when it gets to descriptions of the guns: Pistol: Uder the details of the pistol olympic description There are thousands of shooting clubs and ranges in the UK.Most clubs welcome anyone wanting to learn or to develop their shooting skills. A good place to start is the British Shooting Sports Council website, which covers all shooting disciplines. Clays: Trap: These guns are the heaviest and have the longest barrels. They have a single trigger which permits the firing of two shots extremely rapidly. They fire 2.6mm pellets. The weight of the gun helps to absorb the recoil when firing two shots in quick succession.Skeet: Guns have a medium weight with shorter barrels allowing the shooter to make fast movements and quick changes of direction. They fire small 2mm pellets. Double trap: The guns used are very similar to those used in trap, but the pellets have a wider spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 I have emailed the BBC before concerning an article about soldiers bringing back "trophies" from warzones and somehow (can't remember at the minute) the journalist had managed to work it in alongside legal shooting sports. Well, I went totally ape**** at the bloke in my email and a few hours later he emailed me back to say the article had been rewritten so that there was no connection between legal shooting sports and illegal theft/recovery of military assault rifles If you can get the journalists name, their email address is simply firstname.lastname:bbc.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 You wouldnt have seen stuff like this in Jim Cravens days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 You wouldnt have seen stuff like this in Jim Cravens days. The Irish poet? Or do you mean John Craven who is now on countryfile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 I know the guy who built their new web site, so hopefully he has a toe in a door and may be able to help. I'll send him some stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Sent my complaint and received an automated response, saying they will reply more fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Oh Dear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 No harm mate but what are you doing reading the childrens news? Ok, maybe they should not be misinforming kids but the only real mistake is that they refer to handguns. Perhaps instead of making a complaint just point out the mistakes and ask them to word it better. To be fair if the first paragraph said "It is completely illegal to own a handgun although you may have a Shotgun or Rifle If you can prove you are going to use it to kill vermin like rats, or it is an antique type gun. You need a licence to buy a gun. Depending on what type of gun you want, you need to do different things to get a licence." instead of "It is completely illegal to own a handgun unless you can prove you use it to kill vermin like rats, or it is an antique type gun. You need a licence to buy a gun. Depending on what type of gun you want, you need to do different things to get a licence." It is short because it is aimed at kids and doesn't go into too much depth of explanation. HiPaul To be fair we as shooters should get it right too, handguns are not illegal they are issued on a section 5 or section 7 certificate lots of people have handguns in the uk for example vets slaughtermen and stalkers and pest controllers for humane despatch Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 This is quite a good guide and looks accurate and up to date: http://www.met.police.uk/firearms_licensing/age_restrictions.html I think trying to explain Section 58 and 7 is difficult to most adults let alone kids, Section 5 is tricky and of course it isn't consistent across the UK. Do the MOD staff police have personal Section 5 certs or is it more on an organisational basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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