WelshTom Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Ive got my cabinet now and just thinking about fixing it but got a few questions. 1. Do i need to secure the cabinet with bolts through every hole? im lifting the cabinet up over some skirting board so it would be a bit hard to use the two base holes. I will ofcourse be using the four back holes. 2. Is the bedroom considered a secure place to keep a cabinet? it will be going into a load bearing wall and will not be visible through the bedroom window ( bedroom on bottom floor). Just filling out the application forms for the SGC and it is asking for employer address and contact number - does this mean they will be contacting them to check up on me? Not that i mind, its just i dont really want everyone to know. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 dont know if they do contact your employer or not.....they probably do my cabinet is only fixed through the holes on the back not through the ones on the base. the feo just gave mine a pull and said yeah thats ok couldn't you remove that part of skirting and then its sat on the floor anyway? and my feo advised an upstairs bedroom as the better place rather than under the stairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 In answer to your questions:- 1. Do i need to secure the cabinet with bolts through every hole? im lifting the cabinet up over some skirting board so it would be a bit hard to use the two base holes. I will ofcourse be using the four back holes. You should secure with at least 4 Rawlbolt type fixings. I suspect you may have a problem placing it above a skirting board. I have heard that FLOs like the cabinet sat on the floor, so that a burglar could not get easily get a lever under the cabinet. I would ask first rather than fix it in the wrong place. 2. Is the bedroom considered a secure place to keep a cabinet? it will be going into a load bearing wall and will not be visible through the bedroom window ( bedroom on bottom floor). Sounds fine to me. Just filling out the application forms for the SGC and it is asking for employer address and contact number - does this mean they will be contacting them to check up on me? Not that i mind, its just i dont really want everyone to know. I have never known them to contact an employer. If anyone else has - fair enough. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Ive got my cabinet now and just thinking about fixing it but got a few questions. 1. Do i need to secure the cabinet with bolts through every hole? im lifting the cabinet up over some skirting board so it would be a bit hard to use the two base holes. I will ofcourse be using the four back holes. 2. Is the bedroom considered a secure place to keep a cabinet? it will be going into a load bearing wall and will not be visible through the bedroom window ( bedroom on bottom floor). Just filling out the application forms for the SGC and it is asking for employer address and contact number - does this mean they will be contacting them to check up on me? Not that i mind, its just i dont really want everyone to know. thanks in advance. the back holes will be fine mate its exactly how mine is fitted,yes the bedrrom is fine as long as its bolted to a solid wall,out of site is always best practice, you must fill in every detail they ask for,they may contact your work for a reference,I work for myself so never had that problem good luck Edited January 1, 2012 by Ackley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 You don't need to secure the base to the floor, but of course it would make it more secure. I cut a piece out of the skirting board, then fitted my cabinet in between the gap. A bedroom is an ideal place to fit your cabinet, and you should'nt have any problems with your FEO passing it. Asking for your employers name etc may not mean that they will actually contact him. In any case, if they did, he should keep the information strictly private. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90bhp Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 dont know if they do contact your employer or not.....they probably do my cabinet is only fixed through the holes on the back not through the ones on the base. the feo just gave mine a pull and said yeah thats ok couldn't you remove that part of skirting and then its sat on the floor anyway? and my feo advised an upstairs bedroom as the better place rather than under the stairs All sounds good. Still suggest calling local firearms dept and ask their advice. Scored me a few brownie points as when they came out it was just as "they" liked it! Also would have saved the mother of all removals as I had to use chemical bond to ensure proper fixing on some of my fittings, and the wife just loved the skirting being cut out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 thanks for the replies guys. I will see about removing the skirting now ( live at home, will need mothers permission :( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Back hole are fine we fitted my father in laws like that 2 foot off the floor as it made it more discrete they where more than happy. Downstairs is fine as long it is not obvious had mine in a cupboard by the front door in an old house. Never heard of them calling employers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 If you know somebody who can weld get them to weld some 1 inch box steel along the top and sides of the cabinet back from the top down minus the hieght of the skirting then paint with hammerite etc it will then able to be fixed back to the wall and still fit on the floor without the need to chop a lump out of the skirting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I packed the wall with mdf the thickness of skirting board and sat it on the floor and coach screwed it down but seen plenty mounted above the skirt you could make a plinth to fill the gap under but often it's about right to slide a slab of carts under! No idea about employer unless they are a reference I don't see the relevance I'm self employed so made no difference to me. Out of sit to casual visitors is the term in guidance how many of those go in your bedroom? This whole lever thing confuses me as that means tooled up burglars not what cabinets are designed for, they like them in corners to frustrate attempts to get off the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Thanks guys, trying to find a solution as we speak. Out of sit to casual visitors is the term in guidance how many of those go in your bedroom? never have anyone in my bedroom lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 one place i could put it is in an upstairs room, by the side of a cuboard - i would be able to remove the skirting here and fix it to a brick load bearing wall. only downside is that it wouldnt be an external wall or left hand corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) It doesn't have to be an external wall just to the fabric of the building and secure, you can wait till FEO comes out to interview you. Mine is in a corner but not for any other reason than that was the best place for me to have it. Edited January 1, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddywack Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 if you cut a bit of mdf & fix it to the wall first(above skirting),you can sit the cabinet on the floor in front of the skirting and drill straight through the mdf into the wall,but make sure the anchor bolts/screws you use are long enough to get a solid fixing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Mine is above the skirting and not fixed through the bottom. And was passed and it's in the bedroom I think the employers details are just for their records but I wouldn't rule em being called out totally but hey certainly have never called mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) I have 9 bolts holding mine to the wall and 4 in the base going into original floor bords. I also removed the area of skirting so it's flush with the wall. I would also get something to store the cartridges in. I have a solid storage trunk that holds 2k cartridges bolted down too. It has 2 anti tamper padlocks connected to two hasp and staples. It has a metal cover that stops you getting a crow bar between the lid and box. Just do everything possible to keep everything safe. Like everyone knows, If you give a bugler time they will eventually get through most things, but make it as hard as possible. Lastly with your keys, don't tell anyone their location and ensure no one but you has access to them. A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link, if you don’t have the keys stored as safe as possible you are wasting your time with all these other precautions. If you think the above is a little OTT I will leave you to ponder what I‘ve done to secure and insure no one has access or knows where my keys are. I’ve gone to town with keeping the keys secure and inaccessible.. Also, nearly forgot - transport. I personally break my gun down and have a travel case for my gun with lock on it. I also lock it to the car out of sight. Then get a few lessons, learn gun safety and don’t get complacent always follow everything your told by a reputable and well known instructor . Always be muzzle aware, keep the gun broken at all times unless on stand calling pull and make the barrels are free of obstruction. Lastly clean your gun after every outing. Don't leave it to get rusty and possibly cause injury to your self moreover, someone else! Lastly, enjoy shooting, but be safe! Sorry went off on one there! Well it's all useful stuff Edited January 1, 2012 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) dont know if they do contact your employer or not.....they probably do my cabinet is only fixed through the holes on the back not through the ones on the base. the feo just gave mine a pull and said yeah thats ok couldn't you remove that part of skirting and then its sat on the floor anyway? and my feo advised an upstairs bedroom as the better place rather than under the stairs All sounds good. Still suggest calling local firearms dept and ask their advice. Scored me a few brownie points as when they came out it was just as "they" liked it! Also would have saved the mother of all removals as I had to use chemical bond to ensure proper fixing on some of my fittings, and the wife just loved the skirting being cut out i called my FEO and asked them if my choice of cabinet was OK (the wife had found an old cheap one, with only one lock) they basically approved it and gave fitting advice over the phone.......that may have been why he only gave it a cursory tug Edited January 1, 2012 by compo90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) . Edited January 1, 2012 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) very sound advice there mate thanks on my local police force website it says 12 - 15 weeks waiting at the moment so plenty of time for me to get some lessons in. Edited January 1, 2012 by WelshTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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