colin lad Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 i have a littel folding 410 i am doing up as a project i have stripped the stock and re done it. it has a 28inch barrel i would like to cut it back to min 24inch as when folded is 2inch to long for my shooting bag, when i have cut it back what should i do to cut end to make sure it dont rust?? any help appreciated colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesley121 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 you do realise that doing this will remove whatever choke is on the gun and therefor it may not pattern as expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 you do realise that doing this will remove whatever choke is on the gun and therefor it may not pattern as expected yes i did think that but i did get the gun for close up ratting and squirrels in trees again up close so was thinking if anything it may help by removing chokes colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper Bopper Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Ayup Colin lad, It might be a bit tricky to 'rust proof' However I would suggest that you get the sawn end as smooth and shiny as possible to make it well smooth. Then as daft as it sounds I would cover the bare metal end with permanent marker pen. You will need to keep doing this each time you clean the gun but it could hold some rust at bay. Hope this helps if only a tad. ATB HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flazz Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 You could try a bit of barrel black/blue or even paint it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bearing in mind the choke issue mentioned before if I were you I would trim the tubes back,say,an inch at a time until you get to about 1/4 in the biggest tube.If you cut right back you will most likely be left with a gun you cannot sell on if you ever wanted to,besides limiting its use to short range only.BTW I have cut down a number of tubes and never had a problem with rust in any way whatsoever-when you wipe the gun over after use just remember to do the ends you have cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flazz Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bearing in mind the choke issue mentioned before if I were you I would trim the tubes back,say,an inch at a time until you get to about 1/4 in the biggest tube.If you cut right back you will most likely be left with a gun you cannot sell on if you ever wanted to,besides limiting its use to short range only.BTW I have cut down a number of tubes and never had a problem with rust in any way whatsoever-when you wipe the gun over after use just remember to do the ends you have cut. Do you have a 410 choke gauge ??????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bearing in mind the choke issue mentioned before if I were you I would trim the tubes back,say,an inch at a time until you get to about 1/4 in the biggest tube.If you cut right back you will most likely be left with a gun you cannot sell on if you ever wanted to,besides limiting its use to short range only.BTW I have cut down a number of tubes and never had a problem with rust in any way whatsoever-when you wipe the gun over after use just remember to do the ends you have cut. i know what you are saying mate, the gun was a cheep one i got for a ratting job i got it of pw from wabbitbosher back in December as it didn't cost much i would not be too bothered if when i wanted to get rid of i just scrapped it, not that i intend to do so in the near future, well took your advise and cut my 1st inch off but how do i tell when to stop choke wise as i dont have a gauge to measure it, should i just take it out and pattern test after each bit i cut off, not to sure if it even had a choke it was and old breda there is a pic of it on sales section under trade sales if you know anything about these guns would very much appreciate colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Pattern it is the best way of telling choke anyway shooting and see has my vote. Be interested to hear the results inch by inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 i take it you didn't pattern it before it got the chop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 The easiest and cheapest thing to do is to buy yourself a longer gun bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 But butchers just stop cutting things up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Can you tell us how you get on please? I have a Breda folder identical to yours. To say they are choked tight is an understatement, I can hardly get the cleaning rod down the last two inches of barrel, which does, as you say, poke out a lot when folded. I might follow your example if shortening it works, have to fit a new bead mind. 4.10s are usually over-choked anyway. Boring them full choke won't make them a long range tool anyway, it just makes your 15-25 yard squirrels and bolters etc a damn sight harder to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 How have you got on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 How have you got on its looking good at the moment will take some pics of the patterns and get them on here for the weekend if i can load them, i have got a easy hit bead to put on when satisfied all is done, and hmr dont want a bigger bag the idea was i can put it in my shooting bag and not wear camo then i wont look conspicuous if i walk through the village to get to my local shoot. also it will be easier to swing around in the woods and when ratting in the barns at work colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Sounds good so far then how much have you cut off I have a sbs that's full and full with 27 1/2 barrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 It`s a bank job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankbrickbats Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Hi take a look in the guns and ammo section and see the replies I have had, some very interesting and informative, information which I have been pleased to recieve and allso allowed me to make a decision. Regards Frank PS my dad had a skeleton stock .410 with the barrel flush with the butt,it fitted into an inside pocket in his great coat (Greengrass type). it took some good field craft to keep us in with food in the post war days around Beverley, I got many a thick lugg for spooking the rabbits as a kid, however I have very fond memories of the gun and the forays early Sunday mornings. Edited January 21, 2012 by Frankbrickbats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 i have it down to 24.5 inch and it looks and feels great took it out and done pattern test seems 20/25yards is fine much more and it opens up a bit when i can i will put pics up when i learn how, its now accounted for 5 squirrels and 2 pigeons in 2 trips out using eley 18gr 3inch loads i have some 2inch 9gr loads for in the barns ratting will try that next colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 How much did you actually cut off the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 How much did you actually cut off the end? He says in his first post the barrels were 28", therefore if they are now 24 1/2" my schoolboy maths makes that 3 1/2" off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Missed that cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul6806 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Do you realise that you need to get the gun re-proofed by shortening the barrel? Same with screw-cutting the barrel etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Ballistic Myth... He's already stated that he'll scrap it, so no need for proofing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Do you realise that you need to get the gun re-proofed by shortening the barrel? Same with screw-cutting the barrel etc etc Only if you want to sell it on, and not untill you actually go to sell it does it need to be reproofed to my knowledge. Edited January 25, 2012 by cant hit rabbits 123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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