ordnance Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Should a cash strapped NHS pay for breast implants used for cosmetic reasons (not medical reasons)to be removed if they were used by private clinics. Edited January 6, 2012 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 To my mind it is a legal case. If a private clinic fits 'suspect' implants surely the liability rests with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge-it Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 No BUT if somthing happened to them then they would end up in hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 mine are okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 No. Self inflicted narcissistic injury. If you can find 3 grand to get them put in you can find another few to get them taken out. However the manufacturer of the implants should also be liable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 A definate and resounding NO WAY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) although they are pleasing to the eye its an absolute **** take! also unbeleivebly flat chested women can get a boob job for free off the NHS if they claim to be bullied,unhappy etc i dont know the exact criteria but my old womans mate done it! Edited January 6, 2012 by tomhw100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm starting a rumour that the faulty ones can be detected by frequent and thorough physical examination. Not had any takers so far, but even a pair would be an unexpected bonus :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 its a total farce , unles they was shoved in after a medical reason they should have to pay them selves to have them out , or haras the clinic for a rework . at the end of the day its mostly a vanity thing , but expect the taxpayer to resolve it when it goes "tits" up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm starting a rumour that the faulty ones can be detected by frequent and thorough physical examination. Not had any takers so far, but even a pair would be an unexpected bonus :yp: I like your thinking but i think we'd need to be registered medical practioners to undertake thorough examinations though!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar_uk Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Absolutely not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I think they should be taken out free of charge Then replaced with bigger ones. YIPEE.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I like your thinking but i think we'd need to be registered medical practioners to undertake thorough examinations though!... It's a free service though. If I think they're duff I'll always recommend them to get a second opinion from a professional... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 If they were cosmetic then either the cosmetic surgery company pays or the person who paid for them in the first place pays then takes the company to court, why should we have to foot their bill?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's a free service though. If I think they're duff I'll always recommend them to get a second opinion from a professional... I could be that proffesional Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yes we should pay to have them removed. These women had these things fitted for whatever reason, none of which are to do with the rest of us. If you go down the route of "their choice to have them, their choice to pay to have them removed" you go down the route of selective medical care meaning fatties, smokers, bikers, rock climbers, hill walkers and all those other things that people do through their own choice but which carry risk should also be exempt from medical care relating to it. Have a heart. If your missus broke her ankle while wearing high heels would you expect her to get medical care? Even though she was wearing the heels to make herself look and feel better? Course you would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yes we should pay to have them removed. These women had these things fitted for whatever reason, none of which are to do with the rest of us. If you go down the route of "their choice to have them, their choice to pay to have them removed" you go down the route of selective medical care meaning fatties, smokers, bikers, rock climbers, hill walkers and all those other things that people do through their own choice but which carry risk should also be exempt from medical care relating to it. Have a heart. If your missus broke her ankle while wearing high heels would you expect her to get medical care? Even though she was wearing the heels to make herself look and feel better? Course you would Smokers pay extortionate tax on their cancer-giving fags, they have paid for their treatment. Hill walkers and rock climbers stay fit with these activities and probably avoid as many other illnesses typical to those who lead sedentary life styles, the odd sprained ankle is a price to pay for avoidance of diabetes and heart disease. However you may have a point with fatties, although on this forum I wouldn't support that point for fear of being sat on or eaten at the next meet up. Women who have succumb to vanity and had their tits pumped up (potentially in another country) should pay the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) If there's a health issue, then yes of course they should. If there is recourse to recover the money for the surgery from the manufacturers, or if negligence can be shown from the clinic, then that should be enforced through the courts. Edited January 6, 2012 by JR1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yes we should pay to have them removed. These women had these things fitted for whatever reason, none of which are to do with the rest of us. If you go down the route of "their choice to have them, their choice to pay to have them removed" you go down the route of selective medical care meaning fatties, smokers, bikers, rock climbers, hill walkers and all those other things that people do through their own choice but which carry risk should also be exempt from medical care relating to it. Have a heart. If your missus broke her ankle while wearing high heels would you expect her to get medical care? Even though she was wearing the heels to make herself look and feel better? Course you would I take your point, but I think there is a difference between people without the willpower to stop eating and exercise or to quit smoking (I don't hold a grudge against old people who are from a time when it was considered OK to smoke) and those who have an operation done to make them look different. I do feel that if they have chosen to have a procedure done for vanity then it shouldn't be rectified at the taxpayers' expense. Of course, I don't see why the suppliers don't pay, surely they must be liable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) What about the woman that have implants when there breasts are odd sizes...thats not a medical reason but purely a vanity 1...do we not help them either..?? People who play all sports do so at there own risk...when a rugby player breaks his leg...do they turn them away..of course not...thats there choice...we live in a civilized society and we all need help from the state at some point in our lives.. get off the bang wagon.. there being removed for medical reasons Edited January 6, 2012 by smig4373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Smokers pay extortionate tax on their cancer-giving fags, they have paid for their treatment. Hill walkers and rock climbers stay fit with these activities and probably avoid as many other illnesses typical to those who lead sedentary life styles, the odd sprained ankle is a price to pay for avoidance of diabetes and heart disease. However you may have a point with fatties, although on this forum I wouldn't support that point for fear of being sat on or eaten at the next meet up. Women who have succumb to vanity and had their tits pumped up (potentially in another country) should pay the price. Fatties pay taxes on the food the buy/eat to get fat so that throws your theory out ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Fatties pay taxes on the food the buy/eat to get fat so that throws your theory out ... every body pays taxes....everybody pays into the NHS...thats the point...they cant pick and choose who they treat.. these woman had these implants in good faith...the firm who supplied them did so fraudulently... by the way...theres no VAT on food. Edited January 6, 2012 by smig4373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 What about the woman that have implants when there breasts are odd sizes...thats not a medical reason but purely a vanity 1...do we not help them either..?? If they paid for the implants privately then no, we should not pay. However this work can be done on the NHS I believe, and if it was the NHS that fitted this faulty 'product' then they should remove them FOC. People who play all sports do so at there own risk...when a rugby player breaks his leg...do they turn them away..of course not...thats there choice...we live in a civilized society and we all need help from the state at some point in our lives.. People who play sports negate conditions that people who sit on their '***** all day leading unhealthy lifestyles are prone to. The odd knee re-build and forearm cast are a price to pay for better general health for all who partake in physical exercise. Yes we all need help from the state at some point, but we don't all have surgery for the sake of vanity. The taxpayer shouldn't spend a penny on these tragic cases, the manufacturer of the product that has failed should, and if they won't then the manufacturer should be sued for the cost by the individual concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 What about the woman that have implants when there breasts are odd sizes...thats not a medical reason but purely a vanity 1...do we not help them either..?? People who play all sports do so at there own risk...when a rugby player breaks his leg...do they turn them away..of course not...thats there choice...we live in a civilized society and we all need help from the state at some point in our lives.. get off the bang wagon.. there being removed for medical reasons Most women with odd sized breasts to big-to- small- one bigger than the other. Will have had them done by the NHS and will have them removed by the NHS if necessary. Most done by private surgeons are done for vanity reasons . If they where able to find money for reasons of vanity they should be able to find the money for health reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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