Salop Matt Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Am curious to give steel shot a go ! So what are you using and how do you rate them and what are you paying for them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 You won't get them in fibre. Fine for close to mid range, **** on long stuff. Quite punchy. Stick to lead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 When i asked at my local he asked if i was off fowling, when i said no he told me not to bother its a load of ****. Apparently its prone to bouncing off clays rather than breaking them and not great on live stuff, so if i don't have to use it he wouldn't advise it. I can't vouch for this as i didn't bother getting any but it was enough to put me off steel shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Gamebore do a fiber wadded steel shell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Gamebore do a fiber wadded steel shell Only in game spec I think although I could be wrong. It's not something I would look into just going off memory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 as already said, unless you have to use it i wouldnt bother, i tried a few on ducks and tbh its gash! bismuth/heavy shot for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Most steel clay carts are plastic as proper clay grounds use plastic used them for skeet were fine but steel shot with a degradable wad in cheap clay loads isn't there yet I don't think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 When i asked at my local he asked if i was off fowling, when i said no he told me not to bother its a load of ****. Apparently its prone to bouncing off clays rather than breaking them and not great on live stuff, so if i don't have to use it he wouldn't advise it. I can't vouch for this as i didn't bother getting any but it was enough to put me off steel shot. what aload a rubbish. "bouncing off clays" <shakes head> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 what aload a rubbish. "bouncing off clays" <shakes head> Best excuse for missing I have heard for a while! "yeah i shot 99/100 but only 23 broke due to shooting steel carts" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 In certain conditions even lead shot will bounce off a clay, we say that target was "dusted" as no discernible piece of clay fell off. If clays have been stored too long they become difficult to break too, they go hard and you can actually stand on them without them breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 If clays have been stored too long they become difficult to break too, Thanks. That's another one added to the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) as already said, unless you have to use it i wouldnt bother, i tried a few on ducks and tbh its gash! bismuth/heavy shot for me! What have you tried on ducks, steel clay loads or proper wildfowling loads? Steel will kill ducks very well when the barrels are pointed in the right direction.... Edited January 31, 2012 by motty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 What have you tried on ducks, steel clay loads or proper wildfowling loads? Steel will kill ducks very well when the barrels are pointed in the right direction.... proper wildfowling loads, too many pricked ducks with steel. unless your very close (25 yards) there very poor. I will never use steel again unless a total ban on lead comes in. Just my opinion but the laws of physics dont lie either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Escort try some Gamebore mammoths in no 3 or remmies in no 2 and you will never have any trouble killing ducks out to 50 yards again. As for geese 87 in the bag ( mainly shot on the saltmarsh ) for 125 shots this season suggest steel in BB or BBB does a pretty good job on them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Escort try some Gamebore mammoths in no 3 or remmies in no 2 and you will never have any trouble killing ducks out to 50 yards again. As for geese 87 in the bag ( mainly shot on the saltmarsh ) for 125 shots this season suggest steel in BB or BBB does a pretty good job on them too. Gentlemen, This is the difference between selecting the correct load and shotsize in steel. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Just too add 9 ducks this season (rubbish season) all shot on the foreshore with gamebore mammoth steel. A few good high widgeon 45-50 yds all stone dead in the air. Steels works end of. Years ago it was **** but has come along nicely since then and when finally the cip allow carts to be a little higher than they state they will move a little further forward commercially. Until then I will be homeloading but agree with cookoff you need to be picking the right load/shotsize for the job. The 2 Canada geese I have shot this season have a 4 inch hole in them 15/20 yds shot which in my mind gives me no question that they will kill affectively at 30+ yds ( I just dont shoot them that far to make it as easy on the young dog as poss). Steel works when put in the right place and for the record there have been issue's with bismuth and itm turning to dust sometimes . Edited February 1, 2012 by mpk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 And ref to the ops's question I would have a look at gamebores super steel. Can't say I have tried it but they make consistently good steel wildfowling loads so would Imagine their comp loads will be just as good. I think they are on page 2/3: http://www.gamebore.com/brouchure.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Escort try some Gamebore mammoths in no 3 or remmies in no 2 and you will never have any trouble killing ducks out to 50 yards again. As for geese 87 in the bag ( mainly shot on the saltmarsh ) for 125 shots this season suggest steel in BB or BBB does a pretty good job on them too. Well done on the 87 this season anser, very impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I am lucky shooting on probably the best goose saltmarsh in the country and some pretty good areas on the Broads. Though slow to start its ended an average goose season for me. But like you the duck shooting has been very poor. Edited February 1, 2012 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I've watched Hawkeye off the forum shoot some long distance clays with steel in the past and you couldn't tell by the breaks what shot it was steel or lead. Try some is the best answer with its lower density 24g of steel is roughly the same pellet count as 28g of lead, you might like it. Assuming your gun is proofed for it. ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I am lucky shooting on probably the best goose saltmarsh in the country and some pretty good areas on the Broads. Though slow to start its ended an average goose season for me. But like you the duck shooting has been very poor. We tend to have a considerable amount of Canada's here but not much else, think I saw a couple of greylag once but that was it. Had a nice variety of duck, shooting most species but not in numbers at all. We all noticed a considerable lack of migratory duck altogether. Fingers crossed for next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tignme Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I have used 28 gram no 7s in steel (mirage) for at least four years on woodies(can of worms) and have not seen any change in my total bag throughout the year. I use 32 Grams no 4s on duck and when first used my mate shot a 40 yarder and has been hooked since. Shoot within sencible range and they will do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I have used 28 gram no 7s in steel (mirage) for at least four years on woodies(can of worms) and have not seen any change in my total bag throughout the year. I use 32 Grams no 4s on duck and when first used my mate shot a 40 yarder and has been hooked since. Shoot within sencible range and they will do the job. the only issue i can see here, is the 28gram load is very slow. it infact is 1300fps mv. the cip wont allow 1400+ loads to be sold here.manufacturers wont make a 28g #6 in steel, because it infringes on their other products. certainly if 7s were shot faster, then it would be better. the manufacturers are avoiding going near 1400fps. now 1400fps would be the minimum required for decent steel shells, and 2s for ducks, 5s for pigeon. even at 28 grams both loads are achievable. i`m sure you are more than a capable shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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