The Pest Expert Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Is there anyone who is nice enough to tell me or draw me the correct decoy patteren with a bouncer and a few crows in there aswel please Edited March 25, 2012 by The Pest Expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Is there anyone who is nice enough to tell me or draw me the correct decoy patteren with a bouncer and a few crows in there aswel please Big question fella, you need to try different patterns, for me personally, on the rape I've been using two 'blobs' with a gap in the middle, but thats 'cos the birds seem to be on the field like that. There is really good info on the front page of PW, have a look at that, all of the basic info is on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Is there anyone who is nice enough to tell me or draw me the correct decoy patteren with a bouncer and a few crows in there aswel please Go to a field and watch feeding pigeons! You will find they don’t have a particular pattern in which they feed. They need space to land and will join a feeding flock, which is what you are trying to re-create! They move around randomly feeding. If there is a wind, the majority of the time they will land in to it. So you have a few factors. Watch them feeding! They are looking to join a feeding flock as that tells their small brain there must be a chance of a feed. They like a bit of space to land in. They feed in a random manor. And if there is a wind you will find they will try to come and land in to it. All of this info is available in the field… TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Just chuck out of the bag in a random fashion and stake em where they land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Read the stickies at the top of this section... http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/153348-setting-a-pigeon-decoy-pattern/page__view__getnewpost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 what works one day may not the next. try to make it radom and face most not all into the wind. but not to orderly. dead birds work better than any decoy. its more important to watch and set up in the right place. a bad pattern in the right place works, a perfect pattern in the wrong place does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Is there anyone who is nice enough to tell me or draw me the correct decoy patteren with a bouncer and a few crows in there aswel please Come on Jorge! Read a book, do a little homework, look at the pinned stuff on here, get out and watch pigeons. go on a Guided Pigeon shooting day. You would learn so much more than just sat asking questions sat on a kekboard, if you get stuck after trying, ask then Edited May 27, 2012 by Actionpigeons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Come on Jorge ! Read a book, do a little homework, look at the pinned stuff on here, get out and watch pigeons. go on a Guided Pigeon shooting day. You would learn so much more than just sat asking questions sat on a kekboard, if you get stuck after trying, ask then I have been watching birds that dosent mean I no what pattern is best to use.. I've read most sites online who all say the basic horse shoe pattern is best that's why I'm asking on here to see what other people views are... if your going to comment and not give any advice on the question asked then I would prefere it if you didn't comment at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Pest expert? :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Actionpigeons Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) I have been watching birds that dosent mean I no what pattern is best to use.. I've read most sites online who all say the basic horse shoe pattern is best that's why I'm asking on here to see what other people views are... if your going to comment and not give any advice on the question asked then I would prefere it if you didn't comment at all I have given you some advice if you read my post, " Read a book, do a little homework, look at the pinned stuff on here, get out and watch pigeons. go on a Guided Pigeon shooting day" Going on a Guided Day may answer a lot of questions for you as you can ask all the questions you like when shooting from a hide, there is nothing beats getting out there and having a go. As for what pattern is best to use, I change my patern every day depending on the day or time of year. What works one day may well not work the next. At the end of June I would look for some corn that had been flattened, put a cpl of bouncers out in the field facing into the wind and towards the flattened corn but not to far away. I would place six or so decoys and a flapper around the edge of the flattened corn giving the pigeons plenty of room to come into my pattern. If there were enough wind to work the bouncers I would not use a magnet, if there were no wind I would. In July on the stubble I always use a magnet putting my bouncers well back away from my decoys. What I am trying to say is no one pattern will work every time. nothing beats getting out there and having a go. Edited May 27, 2012 by Actionpigeons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Pest expert? :yp: Just a name I doubt your a lamb? I have given you some advice if you read my post, " Read a book, do a little homework, look at the pinned stuff on here, get out and watch pigeons. go on a Guided Pigeon shooting day" Going on a Guided Day may answer a lot of questions for you as you can ask all the questions you like when shooting from a hide, there is nothing beats getting out there and having a go. As for what pattern is best to use, I change my patern every day depending on the day or time of year. What works one day may well not work the next. At the end of June I would look for some corn that had been flattened, put a cpl of bouncers out in the field facing into the wind and towards the flattened corn but not to far away. I would place six or so decoys and a flapper around the edge of the flattened corn giving the pigeons plenty of room to come into my pattern. If there were enough wind to work the bouncers I would not use a magnet, if there were no wind I would. In July on the stubble I always use a magnet putting my bouncers well back away from my decoys. What I am trying to say is no one pattern will work every time. nothing beats getting out there and having a go. Since this topic was started I've been out a few times with good result I was just wondering what other people find best your comment seemed a little to much all I was after was what advice you offered in your second post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) When you look at all the different patterns you want to try to understand what each pattern is trying to do for you the shooter. IF the birds are playing, the pattern you choose will hopefully make the birds approach your preferred kill zone in a certain fashion, direct the birds how you prefer to see them. It also depends on which direction the birds are coming from and what the wind is like. If the wind is pretty strong the birds will want to land into it, but you can still alter their angle of approach to an extent. If there is no wind and the birds are coming from all directions then I personally wouldn't use a horse shoe, I would put the decoys out in a random pattern allowing room for them to land in. Most importantly watch the birds and their reactions so if they don't present themselves how you want them to, you can tweak the pattern to suit you; But you can only do this once you understand the patterns and the birds. The horse shoe pattern is a proven layout that does work, but as said already it may not work on any given day; You may need to remove one of the legs giving you an L shape layout giving the birds more room to enter the kill zone or bring them closer to the gun. It takes a while to get to grips with it, but once mastered it can be very rewarding getting wild birds to do what you want them to. All this said, if they don't want to play then they just won't! If you can invite an experienced gun along with you, it is so much quicker and easier to understand when you have someone explain whilst doing it; Off course you need a reasonable amount of pigeons about where you can play about with the pattern and watch the results. It's more difficult trying to show any of this if you are only seeing the odd bird here and there. Contact Deny essex and ask him to send you a copy of a paper he wrote for beginners, there's loads of useful info in that. There is also a great book called The Pigeon Shooter by John Batley which I would highly recommend. Also look at Nickbeardo's sticky which has loads of different patterns and idea's, just remember there is no limit as to how many patterns are possible, you can try anything. Good luck and keep asking questions, it's the only way to learn!! Cos Edited May 28, 2012 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Pest expert? :yp: Stirrer Get out of this topic, men only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Just a name I doubt your a lamb? I doubt you're an expert And kyska.... !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Just a name I doubt your a lamb? I doubt you're an expert And kyska.... !!! If that's the case I want a rename to 'MillionareCrackshot' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I doubt you're an expert And kyska.... !!! Now go out and play, there’s a good boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I'm a girl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I have been watching birds that dosent mean I no what pattern is best to use.. I've read most sites online who all say the basic horse shoe pattern is best that's why I'm asking on here to see what other people views are... if your going to comment and not give any advice on the question asked then I would prefere it if you didn't comment at all its a clicky place on ere pal you meet allot of men going threw the male menapause you know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) This is an old thread, and "The Pest Expert" has disappeared never to be seen again Edited August 5, 2012 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 My Mate, tried putting his Decoys out and after half an hour decided to try his BEST Way, turns out they were in a curved LINE, Crikey did it work ,, Magic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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