cwb4321 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Hi, Does anyone know of any clay pigeon shooters that are looking to train up a youngster as like a prodigy Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 where are you based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwb4321 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 in Somerset or dorset Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Thats called "Grooming" on PW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 too far for me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwb4321 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 ok thanks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Contact your local ground or have a look in the CPSA website and contact local instructors through that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Thing is, If they dont know what they are genuinely doing he will just pick up their bad habits. Ask around your local club for recommendations from people that have been helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrop Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Try Sean Ponting, great guy, has his own ground in Wiltshire. Search on gunsite clay ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 You could also try the BASC Coaching site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 i dont normally post on things like this but i very much doubt a BASC coach could 'train' a youngster up to be a very good clay shot. basic instructon, safety and a good grounding yes. ill get my tin hat ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) i dont normally post on things like this but i very much doubt a BASC coach could 'train' a youngster up to be a very good clay shot. basic instructon, safety and a good grounding yes. ill get my tin hat ready. Totally agree. Whilst I think the BASC coaches play a huge roll in teaching the fundamentals of the sport, I honestly think you have to have at least "walked the walk". To qualify as a BASC coach you don't have to be a particulary good shot. A point which is vital in order to bring someone on to a high standard. If there are targets you can't read, how are you supposed to instruct someone else how to shoot it. Seems all too obvious to me. But this is just my opinion and I'm sure plenty will disagree. I'll stick to taking advice from the guys and girls that have been to the top. Much like our very own Beretta Edited April 5, 2012 by canthitathing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I'm totally with Brian on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 i dont normally post on things like this but i very much doubt a BASC coach could 'train' a youngster up to be a very good clay shot. basic instructon, safety and a good grounding yes. ill get my tin hat ready. I think the same could be said of some people who have passed the CPSA coaching courses too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I think the same could be said of some people who have passed the CPSA coaching courses too. Most of the ones I've met... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Most of the ones I've met... I think the same could be said of some people who have passed the CPSA coaching courses too. Most of the ones I've met... It is worth me carrying on with the CPSA course? (just passed the BASC course) :lol: I can read a target and Coach/instruct/direct someone to hit it, better than I can do it for myself But I would agree with listening and learning from those that have walked the walk, every shooting ground is full of coaches :lol: It could of course be a bit like consultants, those that can do, those that can't teach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 There are good and bad in both camps o course, but I see a lot of people who get a couple of badges on their vest and suddenly they know the INS and outs of every aspect of sporting and can coach AAA shooters how to break more clays. All on the back of a 3 day course. There are some times when the only way of knowing is if you have been there and experienced it first hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I have to agree with Brian ( Beretta) the Association coaching courses are geared to teaching novices to shoot safely with a little success. If anyone wants to learn to shoot clays proficiently they need to go to grounds where they hold registered shoots and watch and learn. Check out who is doing the winning and ask if maybe you could shadow them or shoot with them, would they be prepared to give you advice or any recommendations. Richard Faulds is in your neck of the woods Owls Lodge Shooting he may be prepared to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Basc have only one level " BASC" coach. The CPSA have intructor level and then Coaching Level and then discipline specific. For discipline specific you have I believe to be A or B class (not 100% sure on that statement tin hat coming out) There is no substitute for experience actually shooting, and competition, or at coaching you do not become an instructor/coach overnight just because you have a badge or two. Edited April 6, 2012 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I think there's a big difference between an instructor and a coach. When I first started shooting I had a few lessons with a CPSA level 1 instructor. He was very good at what he did, taught me the basics and was very safety concious. I can't really fault him in any way, and although he was a pretty good shot himself he was in no way a coach. In my mind to be a coach you have to be able to take someone forward in the sport, with all the practical and mental challenges along the way. You can only do that if you've experienced it yourself, especially the mental part of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I think there's a big difference between an instructor and a coach. When I first started shooting I had a few lessons with a CPSA level 1 instructor. He was very good at what he did, taught me the basics and was very safety concious. I can't really fault him in any way, and although he was a pretty good shot himself he was in no way a coach. In my mind to be a coach you have to be able to take someone forward in the sport, with all the practical and mental challenges along the way. You can only do that if you've experienced it yourself, especially the mental part of the game. Can't argue with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Can't argue with that I fully agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Poontang - I had not thought of this in that light - Instructor v Coach. Very useful comment, with which I totally agree. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Poontang - I had not thought of this in that light - Instructor v Coach. Very useful comment, with which I totally agree. :good: Well that makes 3 of us that agree,(4 counting poontang) that can't be bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Can't argue with that Makes a pleasant change I agree completely with what Jerry says too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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