dogone Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Several hours a go our Senate approved parliments bill to cancel the long gun registry in Canada. After over 15 years of fighting we finally got rid of a useless law. Pistols still need registration but are quite easy to obtain anyway.Eight million Canadian gun owners are a happy bunch tonight. Now we are moving on to remove or change other useless laws. Cheers from Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Great news Whats so great about it. 14 women were shot dead nobody knew who had access to what guns. Law passed to keep record of who owned what guns, law repealed now no record of who has guns. Our gun laws ain't perfect but at least we make the effort to control who had access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 If everyone has a gun, certain things happen - Nobody fears a gun in and of itself. Guns become tools; nothing special. This is a good thing. Gun crime doesn't actually go crazy. If someone with a gun DOES go crazy, they are easy to stop. Does it matter if we know where they are, really? If people are responsible I just don't see a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 If everyone has a gun, certain things happen - Nobody fears a gun in and of itself. Guns become tools; nothing special. This is a good thing. Gun crime doesn't actually go crazy. If someone with a gun DOES go crazy, they are easy to stop. Does it matter if we know where they are, really? If people are responsible I just don't see a problem. So are you saying it would be a good thing for anyone to have a gun, with absolutely no record of who's got what? <insert nut nut smiley> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 well thats good news for you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Good sensible news. I don't remember our countryside littered with dead bodies in the days before we had shotgun registration in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Whats so great about it. 14 women were shot dead nobody knew who had access to what guns. Law passed to keep record of who owned what guns, law repealed now no record of who has guns. Our gun laws ain't perfect but at least we make the effort to control who had access. yeah thats right our gun laws and registration allow us to keep track of all guns, so if 14 women had been killed here we could have just looked up he records of who had guns locally as one of them must have done it? I take it your actually still in bed dreaming? KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 yeah thats right our gun laws and registration allow us to keep track of all guns, so if 14 women had been killed here we could have just looked up he records of who had guns locally as one of them must have done it? I take it your actually still in bed dreaming? KW as stated our laws ain't perfect, and bad things easily happen in this country. But would you really be happy for every gun to be unregistered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Seem to be plenty of guns in the wrong hands in this country despite our gun laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 as stated our laws ain't perfect, and bad things easily happen in this country. But would you really be happy for every gun to be unregistered. Yes (maybe taxi drivers should have a little more scrutiny!!) KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I think it should be easier to get a licence and should be able to get what ever calibre you need without all the hassle of variations and land checks as a safe shot is a safe shot if your in 10 acres or 10,000 acres, but I still think all guns should be on a register. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 About time dogone! Great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 About time dogone! Great news. Yes great news, I've 9 guns in my cabinet if all records were wiped out I could probably sell them for a least double their value to some nutters, maybe even in Durham. Illegal guns are flooding the streets without making it easier. Beats me why people like you think its ok to buy a gun then sell it on to whoever you like without notifying anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Good sensible news. I don't remember our countryside littered with dead bodies in the days before we had shotgun registration in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Seem to be plenty of guns in the wrong hands in this country despite our gun laws. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Did you read the title correctly Canadian being the key word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Did you read the title correctly Canadian being the key word. Yes I can read, response was only hypothetical as to possible situations if we relaxed gun laws in similar fashion. An update to the change in Canada is that Quebec is refusing to comply with it. The shooting in the college happened there and PUBLIC OPINION is against change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Several hours a go our Senate approved parliments bill to cancel the long gun registry in Canada. After over 15 years of fighting we finally got rid of a useless law. (Pistols still need registration but are quite easy to obtain anyway).Eight million Canadian gun owners are a happy bunch tonight. Now we are moving on to remove or change other useless laws. Cheers from Canada How easy is it to get a pistol doesn't sound that easy to me. ? Something i read on another forum. Handguns were re-classified from a restricted status to a prohibited classification. One of the governing factors that defined a firearm or rather handgun as such was barrel length. Very basically, a barrel length of 4" or less designated the handgun as a prohib. However, those of us that legally owning them at that time were given a PAL or RPAL classification of 12(6), in effect, we were 'Grandfathered' for possition/ownership and right to purchase prohibited handguns. If I happen to let the five year renewal of my 12(6) PAL lapse or sell the last of my firearms that fall under that classification, I lose my 12(6) status period and cannot get it back and would have to retest or challange the exam to get a PALor RPAL. Upon my passing on, my prohibs can be passed on to a family member having a RPAL who would then be given a 12(7) status allowing them to own those specific prohibs ONLY. PS. I don't think not registering firearms would work where i live. Edited April 6, 2012 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 So you Google the repeal of the gun law and you now know what public opinion in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Seem to be plenty of guns in the wrong hands in this country despite our gun laws. Yes there are and most imported from abroad plenty mac 10s, armalites and ak47 very few legally held guns end up on the streets. One of the reasons why the public didn't clammer for stronger laws after bird, was the shooting organisations made it clear how tightly regulated guns are in this country. A similar law change in this country and another incident like bird and I think public opinion will change towards gun ownership. We may not all agree on everything, but we probably all agree that the laws don't need tightening. So maintaining the status quo is probably better than stricter laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I can.see where you are coming from in terms of the UK but the national feeling towards the ownership of guns is vastly different in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 So you Google the repeal of the gun law and you now know what public opinion in Canada? Didn't say in Canada said in Quebec. Didn't claim to know Quebec public opinion, it was a quote from the province senate as to why they were keeping a register of who bought and sold what guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Edit. Edited April 6, 2012 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I can.see where you are coming from in terms of the UK but the national feeling towards the ownership of guns is vastly different in Canada. In the rural areas they favour relaxation of laws but the worry in urban areas is they end up like next door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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