yds Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Shot this morning, unaware of us at 80m's with a .308 and 150gr hornady interlocks. both lungs were shot out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Shot this morning, unaware of us at 80m's with a .308 and 150gr hornady interlocks. both lungs were shot out. Hi John Cracking footage as usual. He sure wanted to hang on to his life....... As he wasnt aware of you it is amazing that he ran like that without the additional adrenalin surge in a wary/cautious animal. L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 As always a great video! I am not faulting the shooting, in fact I have to say exactly the same as you did "Good shot"! The exit wound looked a little low and, even though it took both lungs out could it be that it missed the heart and that is what allowed the buck to run so far? Like I said, not faulting, just asking out of curiosity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the crowman Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Sorry to be rude but why did you not shoot it again as it was suffering before it went through the hedge at that range it should of been stone dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Sorry to be rude but why did you not shoot it again as it was suffering before it went through the hedge at that range it should of been stone dead As said should have been nailed stone dead to avoid further suffering. No offence intended just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 with a clear 308 hole through both lungs its dead anyway, they can run but you keep still don't chase them and they simply die quietly. Had it been a poor shot then yes a follow up shot is a good idea but in that case you could clearly see it was a decent shot in the correct area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 with a clear 308 hole through both lungs its dead anyway, they can run but you keep still don't chase them and they simply die quietly. Had it been a poor shot then yes a follow up shot is a good idea but in that case you could clearly see it was a decent shot in the correct area. Yep... that didn't warrant a follow up.. Better let it die in peace and quiet than stress it any more. No different to a bow shot deer.... let them bleed out quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 At 80 m I would of neck shot it Deershooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) At 80 m I would of neck shot it Deershooter a shot with infinitely more chances of a cock up, this was a guided stalk with someone who we don't know how much experience they have. They took the most appropriate and recommended shot there is, put it in the correct place and job done. The beast ran but it happens it was never going far, cock up a neck shot and you never see them again Edited May 24, 2012 by al4x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Sorry didnt Know it was a Guided stalk my .308 puts bullet on bullet at 120 yards and have only ever lost one in 15 years Deershooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Sorry didnt Know it was a Guided stalk my .308 puts bullet on bullet at 120 yards and have only ever lost one in 15 years Deershooter your rifle might do that but can you? it was shot off sticks after a good stalk and i even had a touch of fever and all i was holding was the camera. My clients don't shoot 5% off a bipod everything is off sticks. Neck shots I do not allow unless the client is a regular and the shots are under 50m's. Also on flatter ground like this a boiler house shot "grounds" sooner then a neckshot animal. It was clerly a good shot and even on my monitor could see the blood gushing from the wound, when he stopped and his back dipped he was clearly in his last seconds. I see my clients kill over 160 deer every year + what i have shot over 25 years, I think I can judge whats right and wrong. regards john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I've never personally shot a deer myself never have I stalked a deer but I didn't like the fact it suffered for a minute or two after the shoot had been taken just my honest opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mereside Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 like others have said you can clearly see the hole through the lungs with the blood rushing out it was a good shot. i would also guess at saying the client wouldnt have been up to a neck shot at distance judging the time it took to reload i think he was fairly new to deerstalking . i am not knocking this in anyway as i see a good shot being taken the client must have had those thaughts of horror seing it running off only to be reasured by john that it was a good shot . you can clearly see the buck looking back as if to say what happened and would guess at the fact it didnt even know what had happened, keep up the good work john and keep on posting these vids,atb wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirky Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Another good video John, its a wake-up call for all stalkers, dont assume you have missed. Go to where the deer was stood when the shot was fired and do a very good close up search of the area looking for blood/hair etc It was easy for john to see the exit through the camera, knowing it was a dead deer running, he just didnt know it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 At 80 m I would of neck shot it Deershooter With the hedge as a backstop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 like others have said you can clearly see the hole through the lungs with the blood rushing out it was a good shot. i would also guess at saying the client wouldnt have been up to a neck shot at distance judging the time it took to reload i think he was fairly new to deerstalking . i am not knocking this in anyway as i see a good shot being taken the client must have had those thaughts of horror seing it running off only to be reasured by john that it was a good shot . you can clearly see the buck looking back as if to say what happened and would guess at the fact it didnt even know what had happened, keep up the good work john and keep on posting these vids,atb wayne wayne he had loads of experience but in the heat of battle forgot he had his blaser and was trying to lift the bolt. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) edited Edited May 24, 2012 by yds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 here we go always 1. you can only see the hedge? what you cant see behind it is the kiddies playground where ****** have set camp up.(sacasm) :blink: Idiot do you think i would tell a client to take an unsafe shot??? look at the video from the day before it actually tells you on screen we cannot shoot as there was no backstop. TIT I think you will find the reference to a hedge was that it was NOT a safe backstop,and that you read his reply wrong and lept in, therefore I think your reference to an "idiot" is a trite unnecessary,and not a little inflammatory. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 here we go always 1. you can only see the hedge? what you cant see behind it is the kiddies playground where ****** have set camp up.(sacasm) :blink: Idiot do you think i would tell a client to take an unsafe shot??? look at the video from the day before it actually tells you on screen we cannot shoot as there was no backstop. TIT Whoa there tiger. I`m not doubting your ability as a guide. As the previous comment referred to neck shooting which would have had a different angle on it. Granted, camera angles can be deceiving. If you want to name call come and do it to my face and not from behind your keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I think you will find the reference to a hedge was that it was NOT a safe backstop,and that you read his reply wrong and lept in, therefore I think your reference to an "idiot" is a trite unnecessary,and not a little inflammatory. KW ah monkey hanger raises his head hello kieth. :yp: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Whoa there tiger. I`m not doubting your ability as a guide. As the previous comment referred to neck shooting which would have had a different angle on it. Granted, camera angles can be deceiving. If you want to name call come and do it to my face and not from behind your keyboard. I am sorry muggins i have re-read your post and i got the context wrong, except my appoligies i am up at 3am these days and they are long days. regards john Edited May 24, 2012 by yds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 ah monkey hanger raises his head hello kieth. :yp: always keen to help. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Pm sent muggins. and kieth you don't seem to want to help on the other forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Fab video,but a question that may have been asked or answered before, how do you keep the camera so still when walking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yds Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Fab video,but a question that may have been asked or answered before, how do you keep the camera so still when walking? not sure it has anti wobble built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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