kdubya Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Just getting ready to move to a new build property and (admit never took much notice) it seems the restrictive covenants have been set by the gestapo, one of them says I cant use an outside TV ariel or a satellite dish, now they can go and whistle paid enough for this sodding place without them telling me what I can and cant watch and basically who my supplier will be (cable)so what do the collective PW minds think? ignore it and put a dish straight up or can and will the builders actually do anything about it? KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 So you signed a contract and want to renege on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 So you signed a contract and want to renege on it? er basically yeah they already had my deposit and my house is sold so I was "over a barrel" houses nearby have dishes so its not as if they aint in the area. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 ITs common and often flouted rule that can cause issues, if you want sky rather than virgin you could have an alternative dish or a nonfixed dish. is it a house or a flat? dish will face roughly south (whatever you do i suggest get a local specialist to fit dish not sky.....) and get the cabling done neatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Had a friend who was in a similar situation . Couldn't have TV Ariel or sat dish on the house . So he put them on a pole next to the house . Had a couple of letters from solicitors and told them horlicks . Nothing ever came of it . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 How old is the house? If its a new build the developers might have someone go round to check,but if its atleast a few years old chances are they would never bother. Round here there are covenants forbidding people to have walls,fences and caravans in their front gardens,but thats been flouted for decades with no comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Don't ignore it, costly proceedings often attach to restrictive covenant disputes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Had a friend who was in a similar situation . Couldn't have TV Ariel or sat dish on the house . So he put them on a pole next to the house . Had a couple of letters from solicitors and told them horlicks . Nothing ever came of it . Harnser . might have to go that route its a development of only 26 homes and you can see both front and rear of just about all but so far only 2 are occupied so as yet no dishes "have appeared" rest are in varying stages of being built mine should be signed off 10th august will see about a pole and dish in the garden, but seriously considering putting a dish on the rear of the house and seeing what will happen. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Just getting ready to move to a new build property and (admit never took much notice) it seems the restrictive covenants have been set by the gestapo, one of them says I cant use an outside TV ariel or a satellite dish, now they can go and whistle paid enough for this sodding place without them telling me what I can and cant watch and basically who my supplier will be (cable)so what do the collective PW minds think? ignore it and put a dish straight up or can and will the builders actually do anything about it? KW You need some advice from one of those nasty self employed, overpaid solicitors. :lol: Failing that, if you get caught by one of the neighbours or a local busybody you could always roll out the Old Kdubya charm and charisma :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 might have to go that route its a development of only 26 homes and you can see both front and rear of just about all but so far only 2 are occupied so as yet no dishes "have appeared" rest are in varying stages of being built mine should be signed off 10th august will see about a pole and dish in the garden, but seriously considering putting a dish on the rear of the house and seeing what will happen. KW You can only be told to take it down . Then put it on a pole . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Ask the police to help? Coat is on and i'm out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 what is the exact wording of covenant? Are they freehold properties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Ask the police to help? Coat is on and i'm out of here. :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 what is the exact wording of covenant? Are they freehold properties? yes freehold says I a cannot erect a TV Ariel or a satellite dish to the outside of the property. KW You need some advice from one of those nasty self employed, overpaid solicitors. :lol: thought I would ask here rather than pay a solicitor who may well then ask here :lol: KW Ask the police to help? Coat is on and i'm out of here. I know an ex copper that has a clever dog maybe it could help for a tin of winalot. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Well a loft aerial may work depends on distance to transmitter and elevation hopefully not in a dip suroiunded by trees say needs line of site. Do you want sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 can your tv ariel can go in the loft space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 can your tv ariel can go in the loft space? I want sky its is the best sorry to say and you need an outside dish to see the satellite KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Silly question probably, but, do you actually want Sky specifically or is this a matter of principle? Only asking as I found that the fibre optic cable broadband is MILES ahead of anyone elses, and if you are going to have that then would the TIVO telly system not be adequate? You will of course get a better deal the more you take from them, so it may make sense to do phone/interenet/TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Well funny. Restrictive covenants eh? Tulk-and-Moxhay-tastic Those solicitors and their daft hourly rates I'm surprised that a know all such as yourself..... I would have thought that this would have all been explained in the report on title. But there we go, what would I know Edited July 16, 2012 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sauce Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why not wait until the builder has finished the development, packed up and moved on. Once they've left your less likely to get much gip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why not wait until the builder has finished the development, packed up and moved on. Once they've left your less likely to get much gip. Ah, it's all about who can enforce a restrictive covenant and who has the benefit. I doubt the builder gives a monkeys especially if it's a freehold purchase and they're offski once it's built out. It's so brilliantly funny because it's got "stuffed" written all over it along with a row with the new neighbours and a lesson on should have got the conveyancing job done properly and not on the cheap / or should have listened to what the conveyancing people were saying.... Made my week I'm off to watch my Sky channels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) On a new build development the covenants are in place generally for the benefit of the other owners and not the developer or builder. Some are Planning conditions. On the development I live in which is a development of 10 there are restrictive covenants in place concerning rotary driers. satellite dishes, caravans, camper vans commercial vehicles and the keeping of livestock which we all adhere to. Im sure if you read the deeds you are covenanted to the developer and other owners in perpetuity. If you flout any then its like gambling money on a horse...be prepared to lose it. It wont be long before your neighbours realise your abuse of any restrictive covenant is effecting the potential sales value of their property and they may well collectively apply for it to be inforced as was what happened here several years ago. One clever chap actually applied for a rate banding reduction because the local enforcemnt officer would not enforce the restrictive covenant on Commercial vehicles and vans. He got one and Shire hall then went after the Covenant breaker for recompense...a bit extreme but it can happen... If there are other ways around it rather than break it then I strongly reccomend you use them. They are in place for a good reason and if adhered to can only increase the sales potential of your property. No one likes to turn up at a potential new home looking as though its from the middle of Beruit during the 60,s Edited July 16, 2012 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 This is a superb thread Our house i sbuilt in what was a Methodist chuchyard and some of the restrictive covenants are very weird. For example we cannot sell alcohol from our residence. That ******* up my home brew plans.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm off to watch my Sky channels Is there a "legal channel" on Sky where Kdubya could get some advice? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Our previous house was built in 1963 and had a covenant on it regarding the front garden not being enclosed. I didn't even know that it had the covenant and got a builder to start putting up small low fences and a gate. Within a day of work commencing, a local busybody from the local Residents association / town council confronted me to say that they had called a meeting about it. In the end I had to remove everything. Never underestimate how many retired busybodies there are walking around with nothing better to do. :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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