Jesse James Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/booklets/opposeshooting.pdf Hummmmmm comments please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Secueity warning came up when i clicked on your link bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hmm some nice info on there for us. I like the bit about finding land info nice find thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Its a well produced document and is very useful to law abiding shooters if only we could get so well organised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Always a good idea to check out the antis' propaganda. I check websites like animal aid fairly often. Would be a good idea for others to do the same. I read through that a few years ago. Basically it's just a guide on how to interfere with shooting. There is one bit about a woman who feeds pheasants in her garden and locks them temporarily in a little pen on shoot days. On these websites, a lot of emphasis is put on isolated incidents like pets getting caught in snares, and badly behaved shooters. The 99.9% of cases where the code of good shooting practice is stuck to never get mentioned. They try to delude people into thinking all shooters behave badly when only a small minority to. I know I'm preaching to the converted here, except for the odd lurking antis who are probably watching these forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Secueity warning came up when i clicked on your link bud Sorry Bud, no idea why it did that for you, seems to work for others and I could open from another PC. strange. Try typing in the link or info into Google. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I like your comments and have to agree on all points raised, there's some useful and interesting info in there too , as said I also like to keep my eye on them too... you never know. KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE , AND YOUR ENEMIES CLOSER..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchie the white hunter Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 There are a good few things on this that are OTT and Incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I found quite a bit of that useful. However, a lot of it is pure nonsense and embarrassingly for the authors, incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Its a well produced document and is very useful to law abiding shooters if only we could get so well organised I agree alot seems to be lifted from the leaflets published by the Shooting Organisations. Obviously its slanted the other way to what we expect to read but I havent seen anything really outrageous in (havent reaad the full thing!) Looking at the website the "school speaker" bit is worrying! Edited August 19, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 yea quite a few innacuracies.... pump actions shotties on fac only? shotgun carts must be securely stored? lamping is only allowed by the land owner, occupier or ONE other? and MUST have WRITTEN permission? still reading, sure there will be more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 what about antis trespassing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Well worth a read, it's very important to know what your up against. Plenty of inaccuracies in there, they ought to make an effort to get their facts right. As expected it's just picking on the easiest parts of shooting to attack and to gain general support on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I actually contacted them about the inaccuracies about licensing, eg the pump actions beinf FAC only according to them. Even sent them the actual legislation yet all I got was abuse, what was close to an acknowledgement that it was incorrect but they didnt care back and a point blank refusal to change it. The abuse, by the way, came from one of the senior staff there. Says alot about both them and thier campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 The abuse, by the way, came from one of the senior staff there. Says alot about both them and thier campaign. Yeah, they'll be from the "animals have shown me more effection than humans ever have" whack-job mentalist ding-ding-woo-hoo wibble wibble school of 'thought.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Animal Aid are more a vegan/veggie organisation rather than an all out 'animal rights' org. They use the animal rights thing as a way of trying to promote their lifestyle. Whilst vegans and veggies comprise such a small percentage of the population their real message and aims will never be taken seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 It may be well produced & slick BUT it is biased & full of inaccuracies.Such a pile of doggy doo : opposing shooting but also trying to link shooting to illegal use of snares,using dogs against badgers etc.Dangerous propaganda with an agenda IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Great Posts Guys. keep the comments coming, The more we make aware of this Rubbish the better. lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 It may be well produced & slick BUT it is biased & full of inaccuracies.Such a pile of doggy doo : opposing shooting but also trying to link shooting to illegal use of snares,using dogs against badgers etc.Dangerous propaganda with an agenda IMHO. The sad thing is, as people are losing touch with the countryside, more people believe Animal Aid's rubbish. If people don't know what really happens, the antis can say what they want and people believe it. Of course it never gets mentioned that virtually all shoots stick very well to a code of practice which opposes the use of illegal snares or pole traps, etc. The antis take isolated incidents and make them out to be the norm which it certainly isn't. Does BASC or any other shooting group do anything like this, but supporting shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Apparently according to that tripe we can still shoot curlew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Does BASC or any other shooting group do anything like this, but supporting shooting? BASC produce loads of good stuff including a very good guide for journalists well worth a read :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 BASC produce loads of good stuff including a very good guide for journalists well worth a read :thumbs: I know BASC do post information supporting shooting but do they campaign for shooting as fiercely as groups like Animal Aid? If BASC do not do so already, it would be a good idea for them to run a campaign designed specifically to answer the propaganda from animal rights groups. They might do this already but I have not seen anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I think that BASC avoid being pulled down to that level and rightly so! They have invested on members behalf to be able to offer reactive and targeted responses when required and have worked hard to educate the mainstream journalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Yeah, they'll be from the "animals have shown me more effection than humans ever have" whack-job mentalist ding-ding-woo-hoo wibble wibble school of 'thought.' :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think that BASC avoid being pulled down to that level and rightly so! They have invested on members behalf to be able to offer reactive and targeted responses when required and have worked hard to educate the mainstream journalists. Hmm, but is that enough I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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