Sprackles Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197149/BREAKING-NEWS-Homeowner-wife-arrested-suspected-burglars-shot-break-in.html As title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 I hope that the burglars injuries are on the front of their bodies and not in their backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 good lad about time we gave people like this a medal instead there the criminal are laws are so ******* up it unreal vermin like should have there hands chopped off were to soft on them they think the cops are a joke if they was to get caught best they wood get is 80 fine big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Hopefully it was all done properly and the burglars go down and the couple are released without charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) It is hard to be certain as the details are sketchy. Couple - alone - in an isolated property - four burglars. You can easily assume the householders were in genuine fear for their lives. Surprised about the number of burglars - but assuming nothing untoward about the householders emerges - I would say it was going no further. Edited September 2, 2012 by Gordon R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 if i read right, 4 burgulars? thats really suspicious for a domestic robbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 That was my thought, 4 people coming at you is genuine fear for your life surely, but we all know sadly how this will end up and it will not be the burgulars who come out of this badily, prob end up with compo for hurt feelings and stress ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) Good on him. Protecting his family from 4 people with unknown intentions. Never know if he didn't have a gun headline could read man and wife murdered. If it's found to be self defense, with no charge, would he loose his sgc for fireing it? Edited September 2, 2012 by parapilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard V Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Occupiers released ASAP with a quick "Sorry we had to arrest you two but it was a precautionary measure" with SGC kept and renewed next time no problem. Burgulars given stiff sentances. How it should happen, hopefully it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Occupiers released ASAP with a quick "Sorry we had to arrest you two but it was a precautionary measure" with SGC kept and renewed next time no problem. Burgulars given stiff sentances. How it should happen, hopefully it will Lets hope the story is as told and this is what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Good on him there should be no reasonable force limit , when it comes down to protecting your family, the scum put there selves in that position not the guy who gave them a shock, Atb flynny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 if i read right, 4 burgulars? thats really suspicious for a domestic robbing. M Maybe burglars are going mob handed because they know householders are fighting back and the law is no longer on the accused side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Splendid. That's the way. I know a farmer (admittedly not in this country) who has a rifle exclusively for human intruders. Its a .30-06 and jolly good it is too. A re-offending rate of 0% he reckons and no need for expensive rehabilitation. Its the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 good lad about time we gave people like this a medal instead there the criminal are laws are so ******* up it unreal vermin like should have there hands chopped off were to soft on them they think the cops are a joke if they was to get caught best they wood get is 80 fine big deal. Feel free to move to Saudi and enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) All speculation at present but I do see a slight problem with this scenario, in fact any scenario in this country where a firearm is used to 'protect ones life/family/property!' I do hope it works out as has been mentioned above BUT, let us not forget that sense and sensibility seem to leave the room when people are put on trial for defending themselves... In the wee hours, the shotgun should have been locked away securely. If the shotgun was liberated from it's cabinet, ammunition located, gun loaded and then used on intruder, it will hardly be seen as a spur of the moment 'grab for something' to defend one's self with but more likely will become 'pre-meditated' and therefore not reasonable force. After all, ithe time it would take to make the gun available and ready would suggest it was gotten out on hearing the intruders early on. If the shotgun was in a place/state to be 'grabbed' and used in an instant for fear of one's life, then it can't have been properly secured in the first place! Whilst I agree with the sentiments so far, I doubt this one will end well for the homeowner, it's not like grabbing a knife in the heat of the moment and stabbing a burglar... Using a properly secured gun requires planning and preparation to some degree! Edited September 2, 2012 by Vipa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 It says that no one has been charged, just suspicions. And 4 people against 2, you don't know what's going to happen, so they definitely had a reason to be in fear of their lives. As long as the PC brigade don't get involved, justice should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 i reckon 2 mins to get up unlock cab load, but it must have been the 1st thing he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) http://www.dailymail...amily-home.html Without knowing the circumstances it's impossible to say. Hopefully it wont go as far as court. If householder acted appropriately. May some interesting case law if it does. But cabinet in bedroom, shells on top (not recommended but not against the rules) Single vault lock door keys "to hand" hearing someone downstairs mooching around perfectly possible to get it load it and be ready to use it. 30 seconds or less. http://www.bbc.co.uk...cester-15194950 Edited September 2, 2012 by HDAV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Unless of course its a single gun secured with a cable and trigger guard which I understand is satisfactory. Far easier to access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Lets hope its not another Tony" Martin. They didn't die on this occasion. Hope they were hit in the front and not the back. And not running away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonclay Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Cabinet in bedroom , keys on bedside cabinet next to bed , cartridges in bedside cabinet 20 seconds tops , just got the wife to time me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Could have been cleaning his gun when he heard threatening noises. Or just about to set off on a hunting trip, or just a bout to photograph his weapons before putting them on sale on gunwatch. Theres a million reasons why he could have had it to hand and maybe it saved his life and the lives of his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den5008 Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Is there is a such a thing as" British justice" for the innocent victims we'll see. I hope he does get off with it,I'd do the same,and reload and have another go. Some Twisted solicitor will support the 4 scumbags and plead there case,and that they were doing no wrong,probably the innocent victim will have his SG revoked,suspended sentence and have to pay compo to the victims . atb Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 It's my opinion that, in time, the inability of the police to protect people from the sort of scumbags who attempt aggravated burglary will result in a groundswell of demand for the use of firearms for home protetection. If the authorities decline to listen, the demand for shotgun certificates will rise accordingly and others will go to the black market for handguns--which will be a nice earner for more criminals. I think the whole subject needs a rethink without the PC ********. We were able to keep guns for home protection--including handguns--as late as the end of the 1940s and the decision to stop the practice was not made by Parliamant as a whole, but by the Home Secretary of the time. But politicians are afraid of guns because they fear their full troughs and powers over us are threatened by firearms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Cabinet in bedroom , keys on bedside cabinet next to bed , cartridges in bedside cabinet 20 seconds tops , just got the wife to time me . Responsible sgc holder then :P BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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