MagiKelly Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 There are two areas on my permission. One well away from any roads but another is bounded by roads on two sides. The best place for decoying this bit and to provide 300 yards plus of safe drop for the shot is at the hedge bounding the road. I seem to remember something about not shooting within 50 yards of a road but have never seen anything referring to this when looking. I know I can't have shot falling onto land I do not have permission which is part of why I want to shoot with the road at my back. So my question is it legal to shoot a shotgun within 50 yards of a road on land you have permission? I am shooting in Scotland if that makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) SHOOTING NEAR HIGHWAYS (E.G. ROADS & CARRIAGEWAYS) In England & Wales it is an offence without lawful authority or reasonable excuse to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway, and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. [section 161(2) of the Highways Act 1980 as amended]. It is important to remember that the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited in itself. It must also be proved that there was an injury, or that someone’s passage was interrupted or interfered with e.g. they have been forced to make a detour. Edited October 2, 2012 by storme37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lees Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 So my question is it legal to shoot a shotgun within 50 yards of a road on land you have permission? I am shooting in Scotland if that makes a difference. I think it's no shooting within 50 yards of a road if it causes hindrance or alarm to people using the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 You can shoot as close as you like. Just don't alarm or endanger the users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 The 50 foot doesn't apply in scotland,tho' the not distrubing users however it's worded does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiKelly Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Thanks. That seems unanimous. So I can crack on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Just build a hide 51 feet away from the centre of the carriageway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 The 50 rule seems a bit nonsensical for this reason: "and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered." Forget distance, I would have thought that discharging a firearm any distance from a road, which led to the above, would be cause for concern and is probably illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 So is it 50 ft or 50 yds ? I always thought it was 50 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 So is it 50 ft or 50 yds ? I always thought it was 50 feet. FEET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Its 50 ft from the center of the carriageway but common sense come's into play with this rule ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 So is it 50 ft or 50 yds ? I always thought it was 50 feet. It's 50 feet, or 16.6 yards. Not very far is it? Personally I wouldn't bother to shoot anywhere near that close to a road. Far too much hassle for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry31 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 It is 50 feet from the centre of the highway. This dates back to the mail coach days and the like of **** turpin highway man the distance was due to the range of a flintlock pistol O bluming heck richard turpin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 The answer is in post 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Common sense should also be used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Indeed common sense should prevail.50ft seems near.WHY not ring your local FAO to get their view.After all they may have a different County Police regulation as here I have been told 75m away from a highway or public right of way.So there is a varied distance throughout England/Wales/Scotland...BUT use your common sense...Be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiKelly Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 See that's what I want to avoid is a FAO giving me some made up figure and me having to abide by it. If I had to be 75 yards from the road thereis nowhere I could safely shoot this field without shot falling on roads or other properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 you can also shoot on a public footpath on your land ,as long as there is no one about and it dose not affect them ,but its more hassle at times , we've been in a field next to a foot path and we have had walkers shout at us ,and we were shooting in the opposite direction ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 WHY not ring your local FAO to get their view. There's a law book - there's no 'view' it's written in the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 See that's what I want to avoid is a FAO giving me some made up figure and me having to abide by it. If I had to be 75 yards from the road thereis nowhere I could safely shoot this field without shot falling on roads or other properties. 75 yards is BS. Forget the legal stipulations for a moment and think of the common sense view. 50 foot from the centre of the highway is going to put you very close the road. Can you guarantee that you won't be dropping birds onto the road whilst decoying so close to it? Can you be certain that your gunshots won't cause alarm or distress to the road users including pedestrians and cyclists? Of course it's possible that a wounded bird could drop into the road wherever you shoot from, but it's really a question of limiting those risks and showing that you've taken those precautions should the worst happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 The answer is in post 2. I was being polite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 50 feet from the centre of the M11 would put you in the fast lane . Decoys wont last very long . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 use common sense is the answer.If it is a rarely used country lane then v different to a busy road. Saw a young lad being set up over the weekend right next ie 30 feet from A29.......asking for hassle..imagine dropping a high woody on the visor of a speeding motorbike....sure its unlikely by why chance it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 if the only place i could shoot, is near the road then i would not shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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