aiden Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 hi just a quick question my friend and I want to apply for section 2 shotgun licences. But back in 1977 he was caught with a loaded air riffle in a public place. It was at the end of his drive and it was in a bag but the law is the law. He was just wondering if it is worth his time even trying? thanks aiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I love these. It starts with minimal detail - no real facts. Rest assured it will grow. You might need to start with what happened to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 did he have a post office at the end of his drive or a bank tell us more as gordon says ,,fill us in with what totally happened,,, :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 This will probably turn into a ten pages of old women accusing you of not giving all the facts and casting suspicion but before that happens I will say that providing you haven't been in any other real trouble with the law then you will be fine go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 fancy calling gordon an old woman :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 been hear before,this will be an interesting thread to follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiden Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Don't know the full details but he was only 17 at the time and he was shooting on a waste ground and some one complained to the police and they drove past him has they was going past his house and asked whats in the bag and it was a gun. he got the gun convescated and a small fine.Thats all i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 you will get more respect if you just come clean and admit it was you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Evo very funny - I laughed myself. The thread still has potential. The initial minimal details are being added to - one sentence at a time. The poster doesn't know the full details, but merely wants an opinion. What could be more simple. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiden Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Haha i thought it was going to be a bad idea. I just want a opinion. It was definitely not me i was just a glisten in my dads eye in 77 artschool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 You can't seriously expect a proper opinion with half baked details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiden Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Thats the only details i have i will ask him when i see him but can not think of what else. I know he got a record. I thought it would of been a simple yes or no I wanted to put it on ask here so he did not have to ring the police station and waste there time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 you will get the right answer on here but you need more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 hi just a quick question my friend and I want to apply for section 2 shotgun licences. But back in 1977 he was caught with a loaded air riffle in a public place. It was at the end of his drive and it was in a bag but the law is the law. He was just wondering if it is worth his time even trying? thanks aiden Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Right, to start with ... #sarcasm off OK. If that is all that happened, and that is the only conviction that he has ever had, then he stands a very good chance of being granted a shotgun certificate. You'll find that a lot of the time, someone comes on here saying they'd committed a house burglary 15 yrs ago, and would it stop them, etc. Over 3 or 4 pages, it turns out to have been a bank job, using sawn-offs. That's why there is so much dubiousness from a lot of the replies. #sarcasm on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_haines666 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 wouldn't it be easier to ask a firearms officer atleast then you will get told if he can be accepted or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiden Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 thank you robbiep thats all i wanted to know. obviously its a offence involing a gun so we was not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 this is my friend Martin. he wants to know if he would have any trouble applying for a shotgun licence. He was a bit of a lively lad and when he was younger had a few run ins with the police but never got convicted. Now he has a respectable government job. he lives in N.ireland if that makes any difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Do NOT ask a firearms officer they make it up as they go along the short answer is if all is as stated he will be ok But join SACS, BASC or the gamekeepers before you apply that way you have access to experts who can act on your/his behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock & Barrel Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 As long as your mate didn't get a custodial sentence, and certainly not one longer than three years in chokey, and [essential] he coughs to the previous conviction on his shotgun application (giving the date of his conviction, of what he was found guilty, and any concomitant sentence - e.g. the fine), as the police will find out, then you may find that his previous indiscretion it treated as "the heady fecklessness of youth". The important bit is that he coughs to it and does not try and hide it, as lying on an SGC application will kill it dead. Tell him to go for it - they can only say no. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 this is my friend Martin. he wants to know if he would have any trouble applying for a shotgun licence. He was a bit of a lively lad and when he was younger had a few run ins with the police but never got convicted. Now he has a respectable government job. he lives in N.ireland if that makes any difference? I wouldn't think martin will have any problems getting his hands on a shotgun;let us know how he gets on. To the OP,on the basis of the information you have supplied,no,your mate wont have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moor man Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) As long as your mate didn't get a custodial sentence, and certainly not one longer than three years in chokey, and [essential] he coughs to the previous conviction on his shotgun application (giving the date of his conviction, of what he was found guilty, and any concomitant sentence - e.g. the fine), as the police will find out, then you may find that his previous indiscretion it treated as "the heady fecklessness of youth". The important bit is that he coughs to it and does not try and hide it, as lying on an SGC application will kill it dead. Tell him to go for it - they can only say no. Good luck. Sensible helpful answer ^, apply, be honest and show good reason, let us know how you he gets on Edited November 22, 2012 by moor man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 My guidance, for what it’s worth, is for your friend to apply for his SGC, come clean with the licencing team about his past. If he lies or ‘forgets’ and the police find out it will put him in a very difficult place! It is as simple as that. As Vulpicide says, get your pal to join one of the organisations who can try to offer help and support if the licencing team cut up rough, but remember, if your pal has come to the attention of the police several times over the years and is thus considered to be of intemperate habits, then frankly his chance of getting a licence are almost nil and it’s unlikely that any of the shooting organisations can help. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Evo very funny - I laughed myself. The thread still has potential. The initial minimal details are being added to - one sentence at a time. The poster doesn't know the full details, but merely wants an opinion. What could be more simple. :lol: was only jokin gordon no offence mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 evo - no offence taken. I did honestly laugh. I can take stick - I have taken plenty. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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