gixer1 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Look Gixer just because you wear tweeds and drive a landrover don't get all snobby on the poor boys with their tackleberry guns :lol: :lol: Actually Alex - today I am driving a suzuki - so I may just turn coat and attack all you tweed wearing, sloe gin drinking, churchill shooting eton attending toffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) put your egos back in their boxes and give it a rest will ya... all you've managed to do in this thread is make yourselves look like complete ***** and managed to spoil would could have been an informative thread to anyone that is interested in more modern styles of shotgun. Edited December 6, 2012 by Zapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 the simple fact is though despite the few on here you will get more than a few funny looks at strawbale grounds, the smarter registered grounds you will raise alarm bells and in the field you will run more than the average risk of the police being called. They are the facts whether you like it or not, but if you want one buy one it won't be because its a great gun its a hatstand it will be purely because you like the look of it. You just need to be aware that you may be limited where you use it and with the average shooter it will ring alarm bells. Use it for practical shotgun etc and you will fit right in, you might as well turn up on a game shoot with it that would be good for a laugh As for you Gixer I thought you were so loaded you wouldn't worry about driving the Range Rover on snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 put your egos back in their boxes and give it a rest will ya... all you've managed to do in this thread is make yourselves look like complete ar3ses and managed to spoil would could have been an informative thread to anyone that is interested in more modern styles of shotgun. Nothing to do with ego so get off your high horse - due to the fact the UK is fairley conservative and quite frankly not a pro-gun country - Tactical guns are frowned upon - If you can't see that it's you whi is the ****.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 As for you Gixer I thought you were so loaded you wouldn't worry about driving the Range Rover on snow it's more to do with the fear of the wife.... she gets the landy....although I prefer the suzuki anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 dear god! ignore button activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I can see you lasting long on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) well guys I have one and I think they are a great piece of kit and it has never let me down The sights and the grip take some getting used to, but once you can get your head round that you wont look back, but saying that yes there is some stigma assosiated with this type of shotty, and yes I agree with both sides. If everyone had one I wouldn't have any stocks to work on . But there is room for both and they serve us well for the purpose they were intended for, mine is used for rough shooting and wild boar hunting abroad. I do agree they are not for a traditional shoot. As for clay grounds I see no reason why they should not be allowed there, as I see shooting clays is a way of honing your skills and were better to practice than a clay ground to ensure that when hunting you can afford your quarry a humane death. just my opinion Hi Hows composite feel? is it rigid enough? I've tried a few comp stocks and some have been quite flexable. Edited December 5, 2012 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) I was shooting my browning cynergy carbon fibre and me pimped up Remington yesterday in the pouring rain at my CPSA premier shooting ground , no one bats an eyelid there the composite stocks are great in all weather , and so easy to clean when you I get home . Edited December 5, 2012 by Willpoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 dear god! ignore button activated. It's best to use the "ignore" button. It's always the same few idiots who spoil a thread. They bait you, then when you respond, they say they're "joking" or another one is, "you won't last long if you can't take a joke". Then the cycle starts again. There's only a few "plums" on here, so once you've sorted the ignore but it's fine most of the time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) You can set up a knobhead ignore list in your profile - Settings/Ignore Preferences, then just add people who's posts you don't want to see Edited December 5, 2012 by Breastman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) thats exactly what I've done I'm heading to my local gun guy today, I'll find out what kind of deal he can do me on an MPA. Edited December 5, 2012 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Go for it mate, Mine was cheap (and new) , reliable, fun to shoot, love it. Dont give a flying **** what others think, still hit a good 40/50 and have fun whistle i'm at it! Edited December 5, 2012 by gazzthompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 To me when you go clay shooting you find 90% of the shooters admire the person who gets 100% or there abouts Few are interested in the gun you shoot, although a high quality gun with good wood and engraving will be admired as a piece of quality No-body gives a dam on how you dress or if you shoot mounted or unmounted They all care about safety and dont like guns being loaded with more than two rounds most would be a bit worried at first sight of any rambo styled shooter until they proved they were safe shooters, exactly the same as if you observed an balaclavered person on the street at night or were followed by a group of hoodies with the hood up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 If you want a pistol grip, why not fit a universal one to whatever auto you can get a good deal on? Personally I would rather have a 2nd hand Beretta with an added grip than a Hatsan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 It seems this thread has really divided the group, much to the detriment of the original question. Shooting as pointed out in earlier replies, is a minority sport in the UK and ownership and possession of guns provokes an air of distrust in most private citizens. For this reason it's extremely depressing that we, as a minority still stand divided rather than united due to petty differences in tastes, desires etc. We as shooters are surely doomed if we can't get on with one another. Truce guys?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 It seems this thread has really divided the group, much to the detriment of the original question. Shooting as pointed out in earlier replies, is a minority sport in the UK and ownership and possession of guns provokes an air of distrust in most private citizens. For this reason it's extremely depressing that we, as a minority still stand divided rather than united due to petty differences in tastes, desires etc. We as shooters are surely doomed if we can't get on with one another. Truce guys?? Yes but it's fear of guns that makes shooting undesirable for the masses, most people that are not interested in guns can still appriciate a nice old sbs with good engraving as almost a piece if art, they would look at almost all guns on a dealers rack and understand that these guns are for some sort of sport, whether that sport be clays, pigeons or driven days. The problem with these very tactical looking guns is that they look threatening to the average person and even to some experianced shooters. It might just be different tastes and in time this style may become more acceptable but I think at the moment they are viewed like a chavs staffy, it's only a dog but they like them looking mean, the dog might be soft but its not the impression it gives, I think for a lot of people these tactical guns just seem to misrepresent what our sport is about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yes but it's fear of guns that makes shooting undesirable for the masses, most people that are not interested in guns can still appriciate a nice old sbs with good engraving as almost a piece if art, they would look at almost all guns on a dealers rack and understand that these guns are for some sort of sport, whether that sport be clays, pigeons or driven days. The problem with these very tactical looking guns is that they look threatening to the average person and even to some experianced shooters. It might just be different tastes and in time this style may become more acceptable but I think at the moment they are viewed like a chavs staffy, it's only a dog but they like them looking mean, the dog might be soft but its not the impression it gives, I think for a lot of people these tactical guns just seem to misrepresent what our sport is about So what is our sport all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 What I mean is that to some not all shooters these guns don't look like they were designed with sport in mind, they give the impression of a gun that is designed to kill another human being, this is not a good impression to give to joe public who wants all our guns banned. Some things in life can just give off the wrong impression, I'm sure plenty of people on here have tattoos, but how many people with them would cover them up for a job interview? It's stupid but it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 What I mean is that to some not all shooters these guns don't look like they were designed with sport in mind, they give the impression of a gun that is designed to kill another human being, this is not a good impression to give to joe public who wants all our guns banned. Some things in life can just give off the wrong impression, I'm sure plenty of people on here have tattoos, but how many people with them would cover them up for a job interview? It's stupid but it happens Did you really just type that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I suppose you use a butter knife to carve your Christmas turkey? Heaven forbid that Grandma who doesn't knife fight think you're going to slice her innards out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) What I mean is that to some not all shooters these guns don't look like they were designed with sport in mind, they give the impression of a gun that is designed to kill another human being, this is not a good impression to give to joe public who wants all our guns banned. Some things in life can just give off the wrong impression, I'm sure plenty of people on here have tattoos, but how many people with them would cover them up for a job interview? It's stupid but it happens A very good reply to a very disputed subject. Well done. Sadly public opinion means a hell of a lot to everything we do in life. I have no problem with these Rambo type guns, at the same time I personaly do not like them and cant see a reason to want them. However I think that those who want them are entitled to have them if that is what they want. I am not a tweed wearing clay shot and to be honest, have never in my life met one even though I have taken part in many civillian, Army and Police compititions, that is not to say that they do not exist. I would however say that if I ever attended at a Clay compitition shoot and was unfortunate enough to be squadded with some one who was intending on using such a gun, I would withdraw my intention of taking part in the comp. These guns have there following and why not, but that is not to say they should be allowed to be used on a comp. On saying that if some one is on the ground using it to practice, then why not as long as it was not being used in my group. I am sorry if that means I am a gun snob, but having owned a Hatsan and oath having been taken never to be so silly ever again I do think that I have good reason. Edited December 5, 2012 by Blunderbust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I've seen many pros and cons of theses tactical styled shotguns , if you've never had ago of one every shotgun user should give it ago as when I put all the aftermarket parts on my remington it FITTED me like a glove all fully adjustable as in LOP, Cheekpiece ... Etc. on my first maiden shoot with it I equalled my personal best in sporting clays layout, I know it's abit unusual looking but it's still takes a 12 g she'll like any other shotgun that I own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) I suppose you use a butter knife to carve your Christmas turkey? Heaven forbid that Grandma who doesn't knife fight think you're going to slice her innards out! I tried to make a very real point without criticising you or the guns you like, it's a shame you respond with childish replies to one of the people trying to be on the fence about it all. In actual fact what I'm getting at is that I would carve the turkey with a carving knife like most people would but you would want to use your chainsaw because it looks cool Edited December 5, 2012 by JBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I tried to make a very real point without criticising you or the guns you like, it's a shame you respond with childish replies to one of the people trying to be on the fence about it all. In actual fact what I'm getting at is that I would carve the turkey with a carving knife like most people would but you would want to use your chainsaw because it looks cool Oh really? Or are you just over reacting again? I suggest you have a lie down tulip, don't want you getting all flustered this close to bed time. You might have nightmares about scary men with black guns shooting more things than you. A very good reply to a very disputed subject. Well done. Sadly public opinion means a hell of a lot to everything we do in life. I have no problem with these Rambo type guns, at the same time I personaly do not like them and cant see a reason to want them. However I think that those who want them are entitled to have them if that is what they want. I am not a tweed wearing clay shot and to be honest, have never in my life met one even though I have taken part in many civillian, Army and Police compititions, that is not to say that they do not exist. I would however say that if I ever attended at a Clay compitition shoot and was unfortunate enough to be squadded with some one who was intending on using such a gun, I would withdraw my intention of taking part in the comp. These guns have there following and why not, but that is not to say they should be allowed to be used on a comp. On saying that if some one is on the ground using it to practice, then why not as long as it was not being used in my group. I am sorry if that means I am a gun snob, but having owned a Hatsan and oath having been taken never to be so silly ever again I do think that I have good reason. I doubt anyone with spelling as atrocious as yours would be considered a 'snob' in any circles, so relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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