grimey121uk Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I was reading one of my gun magazines the other day and read article on a Daystate air rifle with 100ft/lbs of energy, I am just curious to know what applications it would have. Compared with a 22LR or 17HMR its more expensive, heavier, still requires a FAC and something like a 22LR has flexible power outputs from 100ft/lb using subs to 160+ using hot stuff. I'm sure there is a market/application for it but cant think what it would be, bearing in mind I'm new to firearms! So my question is what are they used for and why would you use on over a rimfire rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 It would have a trajectory like a rainbow with an energy of only 100 ft lbs. Cant think of anything unless extreme quiet was needed. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 imo i think you would be better off with a .22lr if you want 100ft lb it will be cheaper to buy and they are cheap to run with the 100ft lb air rifle i dont think you would get many shots per charge, the lr is pushing a 40grain bullet just under supersonic speeds dont know what weight pellets you would want for the air rifle to get 100 ft lb but if they a lot lighter then i would of thought they would be supersonic which would make them louder than the lr but thats just my thoughts i could be wrong, most use fac air like the rapid's between 20-40ft lb which are great for small paddocks etc as for the hmr i dont see any air rifle would come close only quieter colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I was reading one of my gun magazines the other day and read article on a Daystate air rifle with 100ft/lbs of energy, I am just curious to know what applications it would have. Compared with a 22LR or 17HMR its more expensive, heavier, still requires a FAC and something like a 22LR has flexible power outputs from 100ft/lb using subs to 160+ using hot stuff. I'm sure there is a market/application for it but cant think what it would be, bearing in mind I'm new to firearms! So my question is what are they used for and why would you use on over a rimfire rifle? I think the reason Daystate made this rifle is because they can. It's in no way practical it just showcases what they are capable of producing. Think of it as the Buggati Veyron of the air rifle world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I think the reason Daystate made this rifle is because they can. It's in no way practical it just showcases what they are capable of producing. Think of it as the Buggati Veyron of the air rifle world. great reply if the datstate is the (Buggati Veyron) cost £1,500,000.00 then the .22 lr is a tuned up kawasaki zzr1400 cost £10,000.00 both with the same sort of performance lol colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Some countries have different rules for air and powder rifles, so there is a market there. In the UK ? Well if you really want one, and have the money, it would make an adequate rabbit rifle. Don't expect it to be quiet though, and you'll have to re-fill it every 10 shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Probably the "Wolverine"-IMHO a total waste of compressed air-comes in .303 calibre so not much use for Rabbits-buy a .22rf and save yourself a fortune Edited December 26, 2012 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) There is a video of the 'Team Wild' dobbers shooting a boar with the Daystate Wolverine but to be honest it's more of a marketing tool than a hunting rifle. Edited December 26, 2012 by FalconFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I think your all forgetting the big plus with an air fac . Airguns automaticly are open ticket so shoot anywhere . I know people open their bullet rifles but an feo won't do that until the first renewal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 an feo won't do that until the first renewal . Oh yes they will !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I would say there is no practical use for it in the UK - it's been made to show it can be done. Compared to a .22lr on subsonic ammo the muzzle energy is the same (the air-gun must lose power very rapidly - a .22lr still has 75 ft lbs at 100 yards), and it will make a lot more noise. A lot of air to come out and it'll be supersonic - and not as accurate. It will require a lot of air to run and the I doubt if the trajectory is any good. The .22lr will have better terminal ballistics for rabbit shooting. It's like a lot of things you can buy - expensive and built purely to show it can be done, when there is no need for it as there are things available that are far superior for a fraction of the price. You'd have to have huge amounts of money spare if you could buy one of these just to be able to shoot it without an open certificate. A call to the FLD will get a piece of land cleared for a real gun, and if you can show a need (i.e keep pestering them with checks) then certificates are sometimes opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think your all forgetting the big plus with an air fac . Airguns automaticly are open ticket so shoot anywhere . I know people open their bullet rifles but an feo won't do that until the first renewal . No it all depends on area. Some areas now do open to new applicants on c/fire some wont do opens till after the first 5 yrs Its a tool of marketing not shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 FalconFN....."more of a marketing tool" I think that Ian Harford comes under the same title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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