contrysports Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 has anyone used the napier london gun stock finish at all? i'm looking to do up an old gun however i would love a dark stock finish however i'm unsure on what finish to use. anybody have any tips on what oil to use also dose it work like more oil i use the darker it will be. thanks for looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Stain the wood first then oil it with something like tru oil - loads of really thin coats and it will look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hi If you use spirit based stain then it will suck in to any endgrain like crazy and give a dark patchy finish (around pistol grip etc), water based stain is much better imo.. Here's a HW85 stock that had been stained with spirit stain, it was really patchy... I I soaked the stock in a bath of Oxalic acid and water for a few hours, this removed all of the oil and successive Bleach baths lightened the stock slightly (wouldn't bring it back to the white though) I had to stain the stock very dark (several coats of water based walnut stain).. Then rub it back with wire wool and try for an even finish, it was still patchy but not as much so.. A few coats of oil later and it was finished.. It was still a bit patchy but a little less than it was to start with.. Good luck with your project mate, Woodfield Guncare products (welsh willie) does a great kit at a good price too John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Excellent - well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Hi If you use spirit based stain then it will suck in to any endgrain like crazy and give a dark patchy finish (around pistol grip etc), water based stain is much better imo.. Here's a HW85 stock that had been stained with spirit stain, it was really patchy... I I soaked the stock in a bath of Oxalic acid and water for a few hours, this removed all of the oil and successive Bleach baths lightened the stock slightly (wouldn't bring it back to the white though) I had to stain the stock very dark (several coats of water based walnut stain).. Then rub it back with wire wool and try for an even finish, it was still patchy but not as much so.. A few coats of oil later and it was finished.. It was still a bit patchy but a little less than it was to start with.. Good luck with your project mate, Woodfield Guncare products (welsh willie) does a great kit at a good price too John excellent stock that! thanks for the help and thanks for all the other advice. edit: is it that kit that you used? if so i will be getting it to get that dark finish that i want. Edited January 1, 2013 by contrysports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Which oil did you use was it tru oil ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hi Yes it was willies kit I used.. From memory the oil is Tung oil based but it's mixed with some Veggie oils too.. Here's a pair of Daystate Airwolf stocks I refinished for a chap, he'd had a go himself with a kit that had Tru oil but it didn't dry, it stayed very tacky and picked up lint and other bits like crazy... As they were when they were dropped off at mine.. Fully stripped.. Fully finished (no stain applied).. This is my Original mo0d45, the stock was a featureless factory acky yellow colour I stripped it and used the stain then applied a couple of coats of Alkanet oil then around six or eight coats of the oil in the kit.. And a Webley mk3 stock that I bought cheaply, it was virtually black with age (and muck!!), no stain applied but I think I gave it a couple of coats on Alkanet oil.. Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 nice stocks i may have a go at doing one sometime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hi Yes it was willies kit I used.. From memory the oil is Tung oil based but it's mixed with some Veggie oils too.. Here's a pair of Daystate Airwolf stocks I refinished for a chap, he'd had a go himself with a kit that had Tru oil but it didn't dry, it stayed very tacky and picked up lint and other bits like crazy... As they were when they were dropped off at mine.. Fully stripped.. Fully finished (no stain applied).. This is my Original mo0d45, the stock was a featureless factory acky yellow colour I stripped it and used the stain then applied a couple of coats of Alkanet oil then around six or eight coats of the oil in the kit.. And a Webley mk3 stock that I bought cheaply, it was virtually black with age (and muck!!), no stain applied but I think I gave it a couple of coats on Alkanet oil.. Cheers, John cheers for that mate just out of interest do you do up stocks just as a hobby or do you do it as a job? either way you do a brilliant job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 cheers for that mate just out of interest do you do up stocks just as a hobby or do you do it as a job? either way you do a brilliant job Hi Thanks I only do them as part of my hobby, it's getting difficult to now with the onset of Arthritis in my hands though so I don't know how many more i'll be able to do before they pack in all together Cheers, John :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrysports Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Hi Thanks I only do them as part of my hobby, it's getting difficult to now with the onset of Arthritis in my hands though so I don't know how many more i'll be able to do before they pack in all together Cheers, John :thumbs: thats a shame but you should take pride in what you've done already their stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) I've use the Napier oil I really like it I'm trying the red kite one on my SP I want abit more colour and it has Alkenet root in it. I find it therapeutic and love the change to the wood Edited January 2, 2013 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Hi If you use spirit based stain then it will suck in to any endgrain like crazy and give a dark patchy finish (around pistol grip etc), water based stain is much better imo.. Here's a HW85 stock that had been stained with spirit stain, it was really patchy... I I soaked the stock in a bath of Oxalic acid and water for a few hours, this removed all of the oil and successive Bleach baths lightened the stock slightly (wouldn't bring it back to the white though) I had to stain the stock very dark (several coats of water based walnut stain).. Then rub it back with wire wool and try for an even finish, it was still patchy but not as much so.. A few coats of oil later and it was finished.. It was still a bit patchy but a little less than it was to start with.. Good luck with your project mate, Woodfield Guncare products (welsh willie) does a great kit at a good price too John this explains a lot. THANKYOU.... waterbased stains.....cocked up two stocks like this then gave up.. also dont put an electric sander on anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 also dont put an electric sander on anything... That my friend is an excellent piece of advice- hand working is eminently controllable- power sanders are just vicious Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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