pestcontrol1 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Dose anyone make there own biodiesel ?? pc1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 dont have to, tescos sell sunflower oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Which goes rather thick in this weather......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Which goes rather thick in this weather......... works in my old landy fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Even in sub zero temps? Everything suggests you need a heated tank to manage that unless its very dilute with normal diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Even in sub zero temps? Everything suggests you need a heated tank to manage that unless its very dilute with normal diesel i dont run 100% mate. in my old series, it dont need to dilute to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Even in sub zero temps? Everything suggests you need a heated tank to manage that unless its very dilute with normal diesel 50/50 in a landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 i dont run 100% mate. in my old series, it dont need to dilute to much. If your running with the CAV rotary pump (i.e the original engine in a series land rover) you're heading for an expensive problem. There is a bearing in these pumps which requires lubrication which can only be done by diesel. The addition of any veg oil reduces or stops the lubrication of this bearing and leads to seizure, usually costing more to repair/replace than has been saved by using veg oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kier Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I run B100 only, havent been to a garage since last april when I started accept for mot and the emmisions were lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 use proper turpentine to thin it ,there used to a bloke on google showed how hed put 10ml of turps in 5gallons of filtered used cooking oil and leave it ten days to react .pour it through old jeans twice to get all the old chips n **** out,and add your turps leave it ten days .it alters the fat enzymes breaking it down.dont know the science but it worked 3 years in a astra 1.7diesel towing a caravan too.hed charge 70p a litre and tell that vatman he said . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I am thinking about trying my hilux on it as there is a place just up the road but a lad said he knows someone that makes his own at a cost of 15p a littre i think its worth a go I run B100 only, havent been to a garage since last april when I started accept for mot and the emmisions were lower Are you getting it from a garage forcourt and if so how much are you paying pc1 Which goes rather thick in this weather......... I had heard the same and it ******** a mates landy up big style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kier Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I am thinking about trying my hilux on it as there is a place just up the road but a lad said he knows someone that makes his own at a cost of 15p a littre i think its worth a go Are you getting it from a garage forcourt and if so how much are you paying pc1 I had heard the same and it ******** a mates landy up big style I make my own B100 cost not including my time is 37ppl approx, I would be very carefull of buying filtered wvo unless you know what your doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I am thinking about trying my hilux on it as there is a place just up the road but a lad said he knows someone that makes his own at a cost of 15p a littre i think its worth a go that cost he is either ignoring costs or had a source of very cheap WVO, Whichever way price up a new injection pump and check compatability before taking the gamble then you know what the cost is if it goes wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Place of hessel road sells it i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claybreaker Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Dont use cheap rubbish bio diesel or cooking oil in a common rail diesel engine, the life expectancy will be less than a year youll be look at new injectors, high pressure pump and etc which is very expensive... Use it in a mechanical injection system you'll get about 3years use out of the engine before it goes bang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Dont use cheap rubbish bio diesel or cooking oil in a common rail diesel engine, the life expectancy will be less than a year youll be look at new injectors, high pressure pump and etc which is very expensive... Use it in a mechanical injection system you'll get about 3years use out of the engine before it goes bang I might not bother after reading this lol but thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Biodiesel is not cooking oil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Dont use cheap rubbish bio diesel or cooking oil in a common rail diesel engine, the life expectancy will be less than a year youll be look at new injectors, high pressure pump and etc which is very expensive... Use it in a mechanical injection system you'll get about 3years use out of the engine before it goes bang Ok, first things first, if you buy Biodiesel off a forecourt it needs to have been produced to a minimum standard, therefore you should easily avoid the 'Cheap, rubbish'. It is however MUCH cheaper to process it yourself and then, the quality is all down to how well you process it. I made Biodiesel for a couple of years (after a year of buying it) and only stopped when i started a job that pays for my fuel. You can achieve close to pure bio (known as B100) at home in the garage, it cost me about £150 to build a processor and get started but I was doing £100+ a week on diesel at about £1.25 a litre. Processed, and including the cost of waste cooking oil (which averaged about 35p a litre) the B100 was costing me 63p a litre. It saved me LOADS. I was running it therough a TD5 Discovery for 3 years with NO problems other than the expected filter change just after using it. However, your man above is correct in that you MUST check your vehicle is compatible with Biodiesel, some vehicles don't like it end of. Edited January 11, 2013 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I have tryed looking on the net with no results phoned somone at toyota today and he more or less said ( just try it ) all i found on the net was for 01 surf not ( 02 vx d4d ) which i have. I am going to look further into it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Had a scan myself and as far as I can see there are no issues with running any of the surfs on Biodiesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 think il try it just got to find who stocks it around me then look into making it myself and what stuff that i need to get started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Useful forum for you, most of these guys have been there done it, sorted the problems. Like all forums they can get arsey if you charge in like a Bull in a china shop, no worse than here though, but do some research and pick their brains when you really are stuckand I'm sure all will be well. http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 cheers mongrel il have a look i have just looked for garages that sell it and the few around me that did sell it either dont now or they are shut there are a few to look at tomorrow in hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 i have just looked for garages that sell it and the few around me that did sell it either dont now or they are shut i think there lies your answer as to how good biodiesel is! there is no way i would put it in my td5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 i think there lies your answer as to how good biodiesel is! there is no way i would put it in my td5. Nor would I! You have enough trouble keeping that running as it is! ;-) I ran a Mitsubishi Pajero on it with no problems at all other than a clogged fuel filter which was expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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