goodo123 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Well practice with both then........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I sent an email to GMK asking how the organisers are going to stop cheats who are found to be shooting plaswads. No reply yet, I'll keep you up to date if I receive a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I assume that the cattle took part in a survey / research to establish this. Do you know anything about cattle ? I spent 6 years working on a dairy farm, my wife's parents owned and ran a mixed beef/dairy farm. Yes, cattle are very curious creatures. Experience tells me that. Or you could just go and knock on the door of a dairy or beef farm, and ask for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Get the chip off your shoulder and lighten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Timps, the guy who was 3rd would still have been third if all were using fibre. cos he is that good. and it wont affect Ed cos be will have to shoot a Beretta. Not exactly my point, shooters of the calibre of Ed and Cat who don’t like using fibre but do like Berettas will give the shoot a miss or not shoot as well as there must be a reason they don’t like fibre. I know numerous shooters of all abilities who went last year (including Ed I might add) who are not going this year due to the wad restrictions. So the third place shooter if plastic wads were allowed might not even turn up because of fibre wads only. Consequently the choice of fibre only will affect the outcome in my opinion. Well practice with both then........ Why? The whole point of the complaint about fibre only is there should not be a wad restriction on a CPSA registered championship shoot so no point in practising with a cart you are not going to use for 99% of your shooting. If it was not a CPSA registered championship shoot then no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 It's like saying the clays are 1mm wider with a different make, hardly any different. Just seems when people miss they like to blame anyone but themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Timps - valid points. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Well shooting with Fibre wads make me flinch more so if i do have a choice i will always shoot plastic., but if it says Fibre ,i shoot fibre even if i know it will disadvantage me. from Auntie. Edited February 2, 2013 by 100milesaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Well shooting with Fibre wads make me flinch more so if i do have a choice i will always shoot plastic., but if it says Fibre ,i shoot fibre even if i know it will disadvantage me. from Auntie. I can recommend Express High Velocity fibre in 24gm as a good all round low recoil cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Thanks Blaser, as you know I've had the flinch for years. Shooting with plastic I can sometimes get away with just an odd flinch over a couple of hundred birds but when i'm on the fibres ,sometimes i'm needing 3 or 4 pulls on the trigger, 3 or 4 times on 100 birds. I do have a special recoil pad on the Miroku and I have tried the low recoil shells but they just don't seem to pattern well through the gun, so its swings and roundabouts really.The ones that seem to be my best bet are the 28 gram pro one fibre and i still get good kills and an acceptable minimum flinch ratio. from Auntie. Edited February 2, 2013 by 100milesaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks Blaser, as you know I've had the flinch for years. Shooting with plastic I can sometimes get away with just an odd flinch over a couple of hundred birds but when i'm on the fibres ,sometimes i'm needing 3 or 4 pulls on the trigger, 3 or 4 times on 100 birds. I do have a special recoil pad on the Miroku and I have tried the low recoil shells but they just don't seem to pattern well through the gun, so its swings and roundabouts really. from Auntie. Have you tried changing chokes to see what a difference it may make with a lighter load? I only use plastic/fibre 24gm and I have done for years, at the moment I'm using fiocchi's in plastic and if I put the muzzles in the right place the clay always breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Auntie, have you tried the Hull Comp X 28g Fibre's They are the softest 28g load I have found, Although I cant say how they pattern, I do ok with them for my needs when I use them, (I usually go for Comp X in either 21 or 24g loads) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I once tried some Comp X 28gm fibre, and didn't like them, they never worked for me, but I found the 21gm not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I'm going to do some more experimenting but i think for me , half of the problem is a confidence thing so most likely in my napper more than I care to admit. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plank06 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 For me, when I'm stood watching them shoot, it's blindingly obvious whether they're using fibre or plastic wads just by looking at them flying through the air, the plastics seem to loose momentum and drop much quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I found this article on plastic verses fibre http://www.shotgun-insight.com/fibreVsPlasticSporterShells.html it's quite interesting if you read it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Cheers for that Mike. Interesting point about back-boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Hi Gordon, I was not suprised to read about the plaswad not opening though, you notice that on the ones scattered about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Interesting, I usually go for a notch tighter when shooting fibres.I don't think I would like to go down the back boring road, that would make me more hyper about cleaning the damn thing. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Not exactly my point, shooters of the calibre of Ed and Cat who don’t like using fibre but do like Berettas will give the shoot a miss or not shoot as well as there must be a reason they don’t like fibre. I know numerous shooters of all abilities who went last year (including Ed I might add) who are not going this year due to the wad restrictions. If it was not a CPSA registered championship shoot then no complaints. Timps...how did you guess I've already removed it from my "to do" list...? This used to be a truly international event when it was run at Roundwood, it was one of the very best shoots of the year, not so now I'm afraid. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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