Pump Club

[klatuveradanikto]

Been out today with the Mossberg 500, done a little video to go with my others here's link

[andy198712]

If it open choke then curing the barrel shouldn't effect it

They should put a bore gauge down the barrel about half way, then measure how much it restricts near the end... Then convert that into a fraction like 1/4 ect

 

Nah the guy sounds a bit poncey! My local gun smiths loves 870's!!!

[thepasty]

there are people who love to look down their noses or think they're a cut above the rest... you get that in shooting too and from my experience its these types who like to think pumps are hill billy etc.

 

But shooting pumps means you dont have to spend time with these snob nobs

[kiffy]

im curious about the 870's finish so thought id ask.

 

i know the express doesnt have the finish of the wingmaster, obviously stock material being a big one but has anyone noted the finish quality of the woordwork? when i got my express last week it came with a stain on the woodwork (which i knew about) and the usual scratches and dinks from several years of use which where expected but on close inspection the finish applied had a lot of dust in it and had runs in it and was pretty rough.. all gone now though as its going through a tru-oil makeover.

 

my postings not a complaint by any means as i had planned to refinish the woodwork anyway but im curious on the wingmasters finish

[ChAoS]

on most clay ranges, I'd be kicked off because of the pump

Not in *this* part of the world (Southampton), you wouldn't. Sporting shooters around here seem to *like* to see someone using something different.

 

By the way, with a pump-action shotgun, you're well equipped to have some *real* fun and have a bash at PSG.

 

Regards,

 

Mark.

[kiffy]

ive not mch experience of clay grounds, with tomorrow planned visit being only my third time but last week we went to a new ground that only opened the week before and although i took my over/under they where more than happy for me to take my pump along, ive not used it yet so hopefully ill take it and my over/under tomorrow for a play

[Mac961]

By the way, with a pump-action shotgun, you're well equipped to have some *real* fun and have a bash at PSG.

 

Regards,

 

Mark.

That is something I'd like to get into.

From what I've seen, (very little), it seemed as though it was semi autos for psg? Is there a pump class as well, or would you have to compete against blokes using semi autos?

Can you start out doing psg with a shotgun on a SGC? As in 2+1.

[Stuartph]

Mac which part of the UK are you in

 

plenty of clubs or groups that do PSG

[Mac961]

I'm in Colchester, Essex.

[ChAoS]

That is something I'd like to get into.

I'm pleased to hear that.

 

From what I've seen, (very little), it seemed as though it was semi autos for psg?

Many use semis but pumps are popular, too.

 

Is there a pump class as well, or would you have to compete against blokes using semi autos?

There are several classes but the two popular ones are "Standard" and "Standard Manual". In actual fact, not all clubs recognise all divisions but, in general, you'd be competing in a division with similar guns.

 

Can you start out doing psg with a shotgun on a SGC? As in 2+1.

Absolutely; even if you've just got a boring ol' over-and-under, you can have a bit of fun. Our club even has a gun that can be loaned and, of course, club members will bring S.2 guns along if they know that newbies are likely to be in attendance.

 

A good place to start:

 

http://four4islands.org

 

Regards,

 

Mark.

 

P.S. Lever-action shotguns can also be used: http://m.youtube.com/user/MisterMcHaos/videos

[Stuartph]

Mac

 

search HTRPC in harlow

[ben0850]

Forgive me father for I have sinned and joined "Pump Club".

I have been gifted (well bought for a nominal sum) an old Mossberg 500 pump from a really close mate, he was gifted it years ago by a close friend to him who has since passed away....it was originally a full capacity gun but was restricted following the change in the law (reproofed and I have the paper work).

It's multi choke and great fun to shoot instead of my O/U but I couldn't hit a cows **** with a banjo when using it!!

The gun patterns ever so slightly different to my O/U but my question is...Does the action and method of shooting require a different way / mount or style of shooting or am I just **** lol!

[andy198712]

I just find differant guns have differant POI's for differant people really... Just pattern it how you usually mount and then adjust from there maybe?

[Salop Matt]

To show my dedication to "The Pump Club" the first choice out of the cabinet the other day on my first shoot as a married man (got married last sunday 26th) i reached for the Mossberg 500

Nothing makes me smile as much when it comes to shotguns, pumps all the way.

 

ATB

 

Matt

[oggyogden40]

Just got myself a Mossberg 500 cant wait to go out and have a go with it !!

[kev56]

Pumping is err just fun.

 

[www.dot/bang]

‘Naïve newby…’

 

I’m looking to buy my first pump-gun! I’m a bit of a pauper so I want a cheap gun. My reading of ‘Pump-Club’ suggests that the advice is:

 

"Buy a Remington 870. Or else a Mossberg 500. Unless of course you can find an Ithaca 37. Which you won’t. Unless, unless, of course you have a lot of pennies, in which case ignore all of that and buy a Benelli."

 

…have I got that about right?

 

My questions/worries are:

 

- I want a cheap gun, ideally £200-£300. For this price-range the Remingtons / Mossbergs that I have seen are all around 15 years old with 10,000s of rounds through them and fading bluing, scratches, rattles, etc.

 

- The Remingtons / Mossbergs also seem to be mostly long-barrelled (around 28”). I’m after a short-barrelled gun, ideally 24”.

 

- All of this suggests a Hatsan, a Revo, or for a little more a Winchester SXP. This way I get one fresh out of the box in my spec. and with a warranty. I basically get the brand-new Mondeo rather then a 15-year-old 3-series?! Seems sensible. Happy days.

 

- But there does not seem to be much enthusiasm for any of these guns on this thread. I am surprised, as I thought that the whole point of a pump-gun is that you are not buying a Purdy, Beretta, etc, label for mega money? I cannot find any good description of what is actually wrong with them however, so why the hatred for non-Italian/American made guns? It must be something else, please explain.

 

- Compounding all of this is that I don’t really like the way that the Escort, SXP, or other ‘Benelli-style’ guns look. To me they all look like semi-autos and whilst I know it is silly to go on style, I do like a pump-gun that looks like a pump-gun.

 

- There seem to be other second-hand weapons about that might fit the bill (ie. in better nick with 24” barrels), such as those by Fuzil, Manufrance, Stevens, Squires-Bingham, and Magtech, etc. I’m guessing though that these are not popular because they are out of production and you can’t get easily get spares or modern composite stocks and add-ons for them?

 

- I also like the idea of the ‘Celect’ adjustable chokes I have seen on some older guns. Modern weapons do not seem to have them though. Why is this, are they rubbish?

 

 

See how conflicted and confused I am?!! Please help!

[thepasty]

I cant remember anyone saying the Hatsan or SXP are bad guns and I cant remember anyone saying they have a Revo pump to be able to comment whether they good or bad.

 

My general opinion is that you dont get a bad pump, find whatever is in your price range that you like the look of and get it. Do look out for things like the SXP has s slightly shorter length of pull so as with any gun make sure it fits before you buy.

 

Other than that by what you like an enjoy

[throdgrain]

I wouldnt touch a Hatsan with a long stick

 

My 870 is 30 years old, I use it just as much, if not more, than my 6 month old SuperNova.

 

For any money the 870 s a great gun. You can get 26" barrelled guns, mostly Mossbergs are 28".

[TIGHTCHOKE]

I wouldnt touch a Hatsan with a long stick

 

My 870 is 30 years old, I use it just as much, if not more, than my 6 month old SuperNova.

 

For any money the 870 s a great gun. You can get 26" barrelled guns, mostly Mossbergs are 28".

 

 

 

Gun SNOB!

[thepasty]

snob indeed

 

All the hatsans I've shot have been great!

[JONAH898]

I shot a hatsan marine pump with a 26" barrel for clays and never let me down and is a dream to shoot

[throdgrain]

Why buy a Hatsan when you can have a gun with a good name for the same money? It doesn't make sense,

[kev56]

I'm no expert but i've got an 870 wingmaster as good as new and as i understand the build quality is better than the express and also better finished. Over 10,000,000 870's have been sold to date so they do something right. I've heard stories of the older guns having 10's of thousands of rounds put through them and they still work perfectly.

I'm sure the followers of the 500 will have similar tales.

As said if you can, try a couple, see if it fits and if you like the look of it buy it.

I set my heart on a wingmaster and waited quite a while till the right one came along.

Good luck.

Pumping is good fun.

[www.dot/bang]

Hurmm...

 

It seems that there are two distinct camps developing here!!

 

There were some comments on here earlier about the SXP being worth avoiding as it is made in Turkey (I'd imagine as opposed to in the US). I can't see though why this should be a problem; I very much doubt that any major brand makes all of their weapons and components in their alleged 'country of origin'; but that said there seems more love on her for the Winchester 1200 then for their SXP.

 

To further confuse things. Are some brands easier to 'upgrade' from s.2 to s.1 (for as and when I decide to push for a variation on my s.1 certificate)??