billm Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Just bought 10/22 carbine nice looking rifle, read up on it on the net, had good revues, problem is the accuracy is not so good cant get any better than 4 inch groups at 50 yards using s/s or h/v. using moderator and scope, cant shoot at live quarry with that kind of accuracy, as it is my first rifle don’t know if it is me the gun or the ammo. maybe all three. bit of advice needed please. billm Sorry lads ment to put this in one of the genral forums, but still need help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Hi Bill,what ammo have you tried??,if it was me i would let another experianced shot have a go to see what they thought as it could be any one of a number of things and atleast that would rule out human error :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted November 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Hello Neil, the ammo is cci. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Bill cci shoots great through mine even with absoulutely **** ammo you would get better than that I think the problem lies elswhere, I did have a problem with mine to start with, the ammo was clipping the side of the moderator. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 You could have paralax problems. Look through the scope. Move your eye up and down and side to side. Does the cross hair stay on the same point on the target as you move about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Is the rifle a new one ? If so you have to give it atleast 50 shots for the barrel to bed in. all the best yis yp :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Pieman Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Same question as YP. Is it new? If it isn't it may be a duffer. Had a friend that brought a .308 secondhand and it wouldn't hit the side of a barn, from the inside! Another thing to try is to reset your scope to its central position. Turn it as far as it will go in one direction, then count the clicks to go as far as possible in the other direction. Then, halve the number and set to that - in effect, the factory zeroing position. Give the whole lot to a mate and see if thay can zero it. If they can, it will be down to something you are doing - or not doing! Nothing you won't fathom out I'm sure. During the process, choose one type of ammo and stick to it. Changing around will cause you problems, even changes in manufacturer can make a difference. Hope it gets sorted PP :blink: PS If you are fairly local (within 50 miles) I would be happy to visit and lend a hand to sort the problem out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted November 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Thanks for all the help lads, can’t get out till the w/k to try some of it out. The gun is new I fired 350 rounds through it .I measured the holes on the targets last night smallest 3.3/4ins largest was 6.1/8 centre to centre. If it dose not improve w/k will go back to the gun shop they have a firing range inside, their pretty good hopefully the will sort it out for me. will let you know how I get on. P.P don’t know where you live, I live IN Cornwall down by Helston, could be a bit far from you mate, but I appreciate the offer. billm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-n Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 does it have the factory trigger set up ??, if it does, that could be the problem.standard is very heavy peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted November 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Peter, the trigger is heavy but as I said will try a few things out w/k if no results it will go back to Helston gunsmiths they can sort it out, all the best bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Bill take it back and let rommel have a look at it,just tell him that if he cant better your groups you want your money back.....you will neve have a safer bet in your life :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire Lad Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 If the rifle is new and your first then its you thats the problem and the only cure is practice, practice and more practice. Learn the rifle its quirks and functions. I use air rifles and when I get a new one I spend hours just wad cutting until I can shoot 9 out of 10 in a 40mm grouping at 40 yards. After sime time you will become so comfortable with the rifle that shooting it will become instinctive. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted November 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Hello lads, tried my rifle out w/k changed the sights and took the moderator of put 300 rounds through it the smallest grouping I got was 3ins at 50 yards as this is my first rifle not sure if this is about average or not. If it is I will keep trying if not will take it back to the shop.bilm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Hello lads, tried my rifle out w/k changed the sights and took the moderator of put 300 rounds through it the smallest grouping I got was 3ins at 50 yards as this is my first rifle not sure if this is about average or not. If it is I will keep trying if not will take it back to the shop.bilm as said before you should be getting better than this you are shooting rested right? I'd take it back to the guy in the shop let him have a few shots through it and see how he gets on and take it from there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Are the scope mounts at the maximum possible disance from each other? Are all the screws tight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted November 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 The screws are all tight mounts spot on, looks like it is going back to the shop. Was wondering what kind of grouping I should be looking for at 50 yards. billm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 I dont know about a 10/22 but with a .22 at 30yds I can get a group of about [---] that much, using Ansutz target rifles however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 BillM My 10/22 was that bad I couldn't hit a cows **** with a handful of peas with the damn thing. I had it bedded x 2, new scope, new trigger, new moderator, tried almost every make of ammo in it and I still could not get better than 1 1/2" at 50yds, **** for rabbits which when I spoke to a ruger expert, thought it was ok and even then it would throw a round or two in a five shot group. In a word **** ****can the thing and get another. I got a 10/22 AMT target barrel groups now the same as Redstagg's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 My 10/22 is full on target version and at 80 yds with remmy subs gettin about 3/4 inch and with hyper velocity about 1 1/4 at 120 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted November 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Went back to the gunsmiths this morning they have an indoor range 25 meters. They striped the rifle down then tried it out 1/2ins groups at 25 meters. I tried it out at 50m, still about 3ins, so it looks like the gun is not that accurate or maybe it is me. Anyway looks like I will be getting another one, don’t like the idea of wounding a rabbit or anything ells and not being able to find it. Will carry on with targets for the next week just to make sure it is the rifle and not me. Going by what has been said on the forum I think it is the rifle. But before I buy another one I will be looking to see what some of you have got and what they are like. It seems as though some of you are using target rifles if so whats the difference weight wise or any thing ells and are they all right for in the field. At the moment mine is a semi auto carbine. billm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 BillM Dont be fobbed off by the gunshop getting 1/2" groups at 25yds that is what would be expected if it was putting in 2" - 3" at 50m the angle of error increases the further out you go or the farther away the target is. Brno are good rifles, triggers **** but good accurate barrels. The trouble (in my experience) with S/auto on a standard barrel is that it heats up quickly and so WILL effect accuracy. A heavier barrel will reduce this considerably as it takes longer to heat up. For example my old garden stick (cos thats all it was good for) heated up very quickly whereas my AMT can go 30 odd rounds in quick succession before you get any noticable heat difference. Personally, I would have a bolt action everytime, I do have one but its old and I want a good bolt action as a replacement that is accurate so I too will be watching and learning what the lads have to say on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Bill m,i have a brno mod 2e not the best gun on the market ,but well made and reliable.When i started shooting it i couldnt get it to group,gave it to my mate to try.He got it spot on,when i tried again it was like a muck spreader.Turns out the problem was me,i was pulling the trigger not squeezing causing me to shoot to the right.Have you tried using a bipod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsnuts Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 I've got a brno .22 cz 452 bolt action with 3x9x50 scopes brand new really nice gun, i have been killing rabbits at 80yrds easy, just thought i would give my opinion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 10/22 target is heavier but the way I shoot bunnies its not a problem. My bunny combo is a s follows for the daylight consists of 10/22 with 10 shot mag plus small bipod and moderator topped with a hawke 6-24 X 42 ir scope with remington subs knocks um dead at up to 100 yards dead easy! For the twilight hours 10/22 with 25 shot mag 25" swivel harris, moderator with remmy subs or viper hyper velocity for nox's with hawke 6-24 X 42 ir scope topped with tracer pro 400m lamp with rheostat and 17 ah battery, I can't miss !!!!! Col Pol i could,nt be sold on a semi to start with but after shooting this ruger i had to have it, its more accurate than any bolt gun i have ever seen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 We should get together and swap notes Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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