Jim c Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 hi i shoot on a farm that has just as many hares as it does rabbits. i know they are game not vermin so can they only be shot during the season? cheers jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 There is no season for hares as far as i know, you just cant sell them between March 1st - July 31st, Hares are shown as game in the Game Act and so cannot be shot or taken on Sundays and Christmas Day. Neither can they be killed or taken at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not quite correct, you can lamp hares. The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 schedule (7) amended Section 6 of the Ground Game Act and Section 50 of The Agricultural (Scotland) Act 1948, to allow night shooting of ground game under certain conditions. England and Wales: it is lawful for the occupier of any land himself, or one other person authorised by him, to use firearms for the purpose of killing ground game at night if the occupier has the written authority of a person entitled to kill or take the ground game on their land e.g. holder of shooting rights. The following conditions apply: No person should be authorised by the occupier to kill ground game except: a) Members of his household resident on the land in his occupation B) Persons in his ordinary service on such land e.g. employees c) Any other person, bona fide employed by him for reward in taking and destruction of ground game. The keeping of ground game satisfies the requirements of reward in the absence of money. Every person so authorised by the occupier, on demand by any other person having a concurrent right or any person so authorised by him in writing, must produce their written authority. In default, a person would not be deemed to be an ‘authorised person’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim c Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 so i would need written permission from farmer to shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Yes, I am not too keen on killing them as they are such magnificent creatures, but they do taste yummy and also if they are too prevalent then they often attract those of a travelling persuasion and their canine sidekicks to visit and cause a load of trouble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim c Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 they are nice to watch so i tend not to go any were near them when im out but with the numbers there are its hard to avoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not quite correct, you can lamp hares. The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 schedule (7) amended Section 6 of the Ground Game Act and Section 50 of The Agricultural (Scotland) Act 1948, to allow night shooting of ground game under certain conditions. England and Wales: it is lawful for the occupier of any land himself, or one other person authorised by him, to use firearms for the purpose of killing ground game at night if the occupier has the written authority of a person entitled to kill or take the ground game on their land e.g. holder of shooting rights. The following conditions apply: No person should be authorised by the occupier to kill ground game except: a) Members of his household resident on the land in his occupation B) Persons in his ordinary service on such land e.g. employees c) Any other person, bona fide employed by him for reward in taking and destruction of ground game. The keeping of ground game satisfies the requirements of reward in the absence of money. Every person so authorised by the occupier, on demand by any other person having a concurrent right or any person so authorised by him in writing, must produce their written authority. In default, a person would not be deemed to be an ‘authorised person’. I stand corrected, should have known really as shot plenty in the past at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Ask Swiss Tony lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Please bear in mind that it is now entering the breeding season for hares , there is perhaps nowhere in the country that has more hares than my area and about the only thing they can cause any damage to is young brasica plants. I choose to only rarely shoot one , if you must shoot them wait until after the breeding season when they can be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Yes, I am not too keen on killing them as they are such magnificent creatures, but they do taste yummy and also if they are too prevalent then they often attract those of a travelling persuasion and their canine sidekicks to visit and cause a load of trouble... I always find it irritating when the reason for shooting hares is given as preventing travelers etc coming onto land . Should we shoot all children to stop pedos , not aimed at you oscarsdad just a stupid excuse I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I always find it irritating when the reason for shooting hares is given as preventing travelers etc coming onto land . Should we shoot all children to stop pedos , not aimed at you oscarsdad just a stupid excuse I think Don't disagree with you-but I know it's often used as a justification. I like to paint them not shoot them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 lamping hares is not seen as sporting by most but not illegal and to be honest boring, driven or walked up is the way to go when there on the move is the time to take them but as said id leave them alone until after the breeding plus if you have as many as you say once you can sell them atleast they will pay for a days work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Please bear in mind that it is now entering the breeding season for hares , there is perhaps nowhere in the country that has more hares than my area and about the only thing they can cause any damage to is young brasica plants. I choose to only rarely shoot one , if you must shoot them wait until after the breeding season when they can be sold. That might apply to your area, but they are terrible with new trees and ground cover generally- nipping the growing bud. Thing is they don't just eat whats infront of them like bunnies they are very selective and if what you are trying to protect is on the menu they search far and wide for them, often that's just dandelion tops but sometimes is a new planted hedge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Now is the time to shoot hares if you really need to, we've had the last two Saturdays on driven hares and had about 500 I think. All go into the food chain and its a similar number each year so sustainable. They do do damage in large numbers and they do encourage our travelling friends to drive wherever they like running their dawgs so this estate prefers to manage numbers. Those left will breed and be left alone now till next February as long as similar numbers have built up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hares are out of season up here, 1st of february until 30th of september, you can shoot them out of season up here, but you do need to apply for a special licence, and snh would have to be sattisfied with your reason for shooting them, otherwise you,d have no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Don't disagree with you-but I know it's often used as a justification. I like to paint them not shoot them! That sounds just as cruel as shooting them, how do you catch them? Edited February 18, 2013 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 That sounds just as cruel as shooting them, how do you catch them? Long net, then they get a cool scale effect when painted through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Now is the time to shoot hares if you really need to, we've had the last two Saturdays on driven hares and had about 500 I think. All go into the food chain and its a similar number each year so sustainable. They do do damage in large numbers and they do encourage our travelling friends to drive wherever they like running their dawgs so this estate prefers to manage numbers. Those left will breed and be left alone now till next February as long as similar numbers have built up Would love to have a day where I could shoot a few hares and not feel guilty. Been years since I shot one as there's not a huge ammount in the area and it plays on my conscience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Don't even remember seeing a hare in the last 12 months. I grow apples and have shot hares in the past because of the damage they do to trees. Many years since I shot at one though, decades in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Don't even remember seeing a hare in the last 12 months. I grow apples and have shot hares in the past because of the damage they do to trees. Many years since I shot at one though, decades in fact. Its not down to shooting them, farming practises used today are largely to blame and increased traffic (hares are real dumb about cars they try and out run them traveling directly down the centre of the road or run directly towards the lights). Have found selectively shooting the biggest hares increases numbers I think they might push the younger more fertile breeders out the territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Farming practices have changed little in my small part of the world. Silaging undoubtedly takes it's toll but not all my neighbours do that anyway. Buzzard increase must make a very big difference. Much as I like to see the buzzards I reckon they have had a big hand in the hares downfall around here. No doubt the increase in badgers has played a part in it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 iv got no worrys what so ever shooting them iv done easy 700 off 17 farms in maybe 2 years the farmers wanted rid as they were getting 4x4 on there on a daily routeing this year iv not sin 1 set on tracks on any of my land i 100 per cent put that down to me killing most of the hares and foxes there not to many deer on my land so they don't come into that mix. i honestly do not see why people hold hares with such great respect its just a massive rabbit they will blast 100 pheasants but not kill a hare or well each to there own i suppose swiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) iv got no worrys what so ever shooting them iv done easy 700 off 17 farms in maybe 2 years the farmers wanted rid as they were getting 4x4 on there on a daily routeing this year iv not sin 1 set on tracks on any of my land i 100 per cent put that down to me killing most of the hares and foxes there not to many deer on my land so they don't come into that mix. i honestly do not see why people hold hares with such great respect its just a massive rabbit they will blast 100 pheasants but not kill a hare or well each to there own i suppose swiss 1. because they are under threat of disappearing in some areas or already have 2. you can replace pheasants for next season, just phone the game dealer Killing any native Fauna outside of rats (and even then its debateable due to its effect of BOP etc) so you don't see any at all is just plain wrong and against what many "sportsmen" like myself feel. I suppose its people with that attitude that destroyed so many native species across the planet with the " I am alright jack" attitude. Think of future generations if we all took your stance there will be nothing for them. I continue to be a Hare killer as and when its right to do so but the words "moderation" and "balance" are to the forefront of my mind, they are not difficult quarry if you give them no law and show no mercy Edited February 19, 2013 by kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 1. because they are under threat of disappearing in some areas or already have 2. you can replace pheasants for next season, just phone the game dealer Killing any native Fauna outside of rats (and even then its debateable due to its effect of BOP etc) so you don't see any at all is just plain wrong and against what many "sportsmen" like myself feel. I suppose its people with that attitude that destroyed so many native species across the planet with the " I am alright jack" attitude. Think of future generations if we all took your stance there will be nothing for them. I continue to be a Hare killer as and when its right to do so but the words "moderation" and "balance" are to the forefront of my mind, they are not difficult quarry if you give them no law and show no mercy i hear where your coming from but its the farmers land and there pig sick of *****"s ,4x4 and any other poachers chasing them around there farms at 2 am the hares were the main problem on most farms iv got.... im not getting into another argument on here about them i shoot them no problem job done swiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 i hear where your coming from but its the farmers land and there pig sick of *****"s ,4x4 and any other poachers chasing them around there farms at 2 am the hares were the main problem on most farms iv got.... im not getting into another argument on here about them i shoot them no problem job done swiss Seems to be a case of chucking the baby out with the bathwater, once they are gone we will be busy giving them same farmers grants from the taxpayer to encourage the hares back. Far better to tackle the poaching and traffic offences head on than create another problem, are you also going to take the argument we should remove Salmon from our rivers and deer from our woods on the same count? I think not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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