cockercas Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Here is the pic of the scabby fox i shot last week. In over 100 foxes ive never shot one like this. It smelled real bad and was missing bits of fur(mange if thats the correct spelling) and not alot of fur on the tail. Its deffinetly not a country fox. Its rumord that foxes are released in a car park dpwn the road from were i shot this. Onto the shooting then. As me and jamied123 drove down the track i thorght i saw a pair of eyes thru the hedge in a ploughed field. As we went thru the gate jamied looked with the lamp and there was nothing. Quick look around off the track with the lamp and saw nothing. Just as we got to the gate to lock up i scanned the lamp were i thorght id seen the eyes. The lamp picked up a pair of gleeming eyes in the long grass on the otherside of the field. Passed the lamp over to jamied123, shut the bolt on the rifle and rested on the door for a look. Not 100% at this point because its laid down in a foot of grass. Gave a small squeak. Fox just lifted its head. Squeaked some more. Not intrested. Abit louder, higher pitched squeak. Just lifted its head again. Beeped the car horn. Resulted in nothing. Gave a shout. Nothing. Opened the door went around the car, lowerd the pod, dailed in the elevation on the scope. Allowed for the slight wind by holding off. Fox still laid in grass. Take aim and fire. Trek across the boggy plough and retrive the poor fox. Best of dead this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Looks like its been dead for a while! You did it a favour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Looks like its been dead for a while! You did it a favour If it had been released then i dont think it would of lasted long. I got the impression that it wasnt entirely sure what it was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) Last time I seen a animal like that id just had a pint in the slaughtered lamb "stick to the roads". Edited March 12, 2013 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Be wary of handling a fox with mange because humans can get it by contact. use disposable gloves of something. bury of burn the carcass. dogs can get it also. The poor blighters wander around completely out of it. Horible disease and although they are a pest nothing deserves this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Be wary of handling a fox with mange because humans can get it by contact. use disposable gloves of something. bury of burn the carcass. dogs can get it also. The poor blighters wander around completely out of it. Horible disease and although they are a pest nothing deserves this. Isnt it cureable by an injection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 yes it is treatable but its better to not get it. the disease is also known as the seven year itch because it can lay dormant for years and then flair up again. I know of a shooter that ended up with some peculiar condition that has really done a lot of damage to their well being for several years now and this was found to be as a result of handling foxes. i am not a doctor so I dont know what exactly it was but since then I carry a few throw away gloves when we are out foxing to load them up in the back of the hilux. It was probably a fluke condition or set of circumstances but I dont take any chances after that blokes illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think you did this fox a good turn! He obviously wasn't well enough to have an appetite and likely would have slowly starved to death. Nice shot on him and I echo Fortunes words be careful with all predators--even the healthy looking specimens are usually full of parasites and they are a Zoonotic illness ( transferable to humans) I wash and disinfect gear regularly when shooting fur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 shame to see such a lovely animal in a bad state like that i have shot a few not many most are healthy in good condition but it is a tough life for them ... dare you to lick it :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halight Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Thanks for posting, Iv never seen one like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 shame to see such a lovely animal in a bad state like that i have shot a few not many most are healthy in good condition but it is a tough life for them ... dare you to lick it :lol: No need for him to lick it - it sounds as though he may already be infected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 No need for him to lick it - it sounds as though he may already be infected. Ok then, how dose it sound like im already infected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It in theory is zoonotic but only if its the sarcoptic version its unlikely to catch it but can happen in theory. In practice those scabby ones we just use gloves, interestingly as we shoot on town edges we have over the years found the more you shoot the healthier they actually seem to become and I can't remember a mangy one in the last year, so its just possible reducing their density has helped with the mange issue. I won't forget this one in a hurry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It in theory is zoonotic but only if its the sarcoptic version its unlikely to catch it but can happen in theory. In practice those scabby ones we just use gloves, interestingly as we shoot on town edges we have over the years found the more you shoot the healthier they actually seem to become and I can't remember a mangy one in the last year, so its just possible reducing their density has helped with the mange issue. I won't forget this one in a hurry! Looks like a kangaroo. I still think its been given an injection and released out of a van. First fox ive seen on this land all year. It wasnt a old fox. It had all its white teeth. It was a dog to. Hopefully it wont of been there long and had time to pass it onto the vixens during there breeding season. Otherwise there will be a whole load of scabby cubs roaming the countyside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It in theory is zoonotic but only if its the sarcoptic version its unlikely to catch it but can happen in theory. In practice those scabby ones we just use gloves, interestingly as we shoot on town edges we have over the years found the more you shoot the healthier they actually seem to become and I can't remember a mangy one in the last year, so its just possible reducing their density has helped with the mange issue. I won't forget this one in a hurry! makes you wonder how it lived with that hole in its head :lol: :lol: :yahoo: :yahoo: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 If it was released by the rspca odds are it would have been treated they don't release ones like that, but possibly more likely is it lost its territory and got moved on as weakened by the disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 If it was released by the rspca odds are it would have been treated they don't release ones like that, but possibly more likely is it lost its territory and got moved on as weakened by the disease. That is what i first thorght (about them been released in this state), but i shoot right around this farm so theres a huge lump of land with no foxes on. I flicked it over expecting it to be castrated, like a few others ive shot thats been released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Its my belief that a lot of pest controllers are just simply re-releasing any foxes they trap because a) they haven't got any legal means of killing them, B) the customers don't want them killed they just want rid c) its expensive to legally dispose of a dead fox and while you can't ever get done for releasing a live one you can certainly be done for dumping a dead one so its a few miles up the road and bye bye charlie, this is your new home Edited March 14, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Its my belief that a lot of pest controllers are just simply re-releasing any foxes they trap because a) they haven't got any legal means of killing them, B) the customers don't want them killed they just want rid c) its expensive to legally dispose of a dead fox and while you can't ever get done for releasing a live one you can certainly be done for dumping a dead one so its a few miles up the road and bye bye charlie, this is your new home thats not very nice, cruel even. i wasnt exactly close but it wasnt really bothered about anything car/lamp/squeak/horn rather it was loopy or it felt safe in the grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Its my belief that a lot of pest controllers are just simply re-releasing any foxes they trap because a) they haven't got any legal means of killing them, B) the customers don't want them killed they just want rid c) its expensive to legally dispose of a dead fox and while you can't ever get done for releasing a live one you can certainly be done for dumping a dead one so its a few miles up the road and bye bye charlie, this is your new home While I am sure that this does happen surely it is illegal to release a live fox more than 1 mile from where it was caught/found and if you were to re-release one within a mile from where it was trapped surely it would quickly find it's way back to it's own regular teritory? Someone please correct me if I am wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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