Spaniel Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Hi I am after some suggestions Do you think it would be beneficial to purchase a pattern master choke for my Xtreama 2 this season, If the job interview works out this week i might end up back at Orkney this season on the Geese, so any suggestions on the above please Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 I have a half choke kicks high flyer. It works for me and my style of shooting. Im a duck man who has been known to shoot the odd goose whilst waiting for duck,its my choice of choke for daylight and stick with a conventional quarter for the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 I use a briley modified choke in my xtrema ll to good effect, bought it used off here for £25 bargain doesn't the pattern master have little nipple type things in it which wear off after time?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 My best results with 3.5" steel are through a 1/4 choke on my Extrema 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I have used 1/4 choke in the xtreama 2 myself up to now, infact this is normaly all i use in either of my guns, and i do get on well with it, but i was just wondering if these other chokes actualy made a difference or not as they are around the £100 or so mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I have a patternmaster code black full/extra full. Love it! Considering im using lead i was taking geese down at stupid ranges last year! http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/232039-kicks-chokes-please-help/page-2 Was out yesterday on crows and im sure i had one over 100 yds. Great piece of kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex2 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I use a code black long range duck, use it for every thing pigeon,crow etc it s quarter choke acording to my choke guage, Holds a tight pattern out to 60 yrd on a pattern plate, if youre on target its a kill not many flapers, when deycoying put the pattern out to 40 yrd & watch the birds fold up when hit. (should have got a code black mid range for deycoying) I use it in a bennelli crioevo semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) I use a code black long range duck, use it for every thing pigeon,crow etc it s quarter choke acording to my choke guage, Holds a tight pattern out to 60 yrd on a pattern plate, if youre on target its a kill not many flapers, when deycoying put the pattern out to 40 yrd & watch the birds fold up when hit. (should have got a code black mid range for deycoying) I use it in a bennelli crioevo semi. Surely the only way of measuring the degree of choke is in relation to the actual bore diameter. # As you state that you are patterning well at 60 yds I would suggest that's more than 1/4. Sounds like a good combination that works well for you. Edited April 29, 2013 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex2 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I measured the choke with a brass choke guage ,it starts at full & goes up to bore, when put in the pattern master choke & it reads quarter . Im using 32grm no 6 loads with felt wads, the choke are supposed to work better with plastic wads & larger load sizes, Its supposed to slow the wad down & put more lead in to the pattern. if you need more info look at pro goose & duck supplies wed site its got all the info on the pattern master choke & lists the correct choke for youre make of gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Surely the only way of measuring the degree of choke is in relation to the actual bore diameter. # +1 absolutely in order to obtain the nominal boring. As you state that you are killing well at 60 yds I would suggest that's more than 1/4. And the only way to measure the actual performance is at the pattern plate. Sounds like a good combination that works well for you. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 You cannot talk about a Patternmaster choke in the way you discuss a normal internal choke. They work in a totaly different manner. I have an extended range duck model. Awesome at long range birds. Patterned at 40 yards with Lyavale 3" No 1's - a good steel cartridge. Only 3 pellets outside the 30" circle - Just! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 You cannot talk about a Patternmaster choke in the way you discuss a normal internal choke. They work in a totaly different manner. I have an extended range duck model. Awesome at long range birds. Patterned at 40 yards with Lyavale 3" No 1's - a good steel cartridge. Only 3 pellets outside the 30" circle - Just! Hi, Have I got this right? I understand about the gas venting and the wad check improving things considerably, but as I understand it the first portion of this choke still utilises a constriction to achieve a reduction in the rate of spread, the other additions just adding improvements to the pattern quality. Is that correct or have I 'missed the boat'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 You cannot talk about a Patternmaster choke in the way you discuss a normal internal choke. They work in a totaly different manner. I have an extended range duck model. Awesome at long range birds. Patterned at 40 yards with Lyavale 3" No 1's - a good steel cartridge. Only 3 pellets outside the 30" circle - Just! Thinking this is the way to go to be honest, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I am not going to be changing chokes while out Wildfowling so how do you think Size 3s (Steel) would pattern if the Code Black Goose was fitted on the Xtreama 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I am not going to be changing chokes while out Wildfowling so how do you think Size 3s (Steel) would pattern if the Code Black Goose was fitted on the Xtreama 2 what are you after?? a good rule of thimb is #2s (32g) duck and BB (36g -42g ) for goose. even slow 1400fps steel would do good with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I think mine are 3s 36gms which i use on the ducks and i had 42gms BB on the geese Just trying to understand if the Code Black Goose choke will provide a tighter pattern with more pellets how would this effect the pattern and grouping of pellets if i used the 3s 36gms... Out on the foreshore i will be able to load different cartridges for what is coming in, but I am only going to be installing the one choke, a bit different if i go to Orkney again and just target the geese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Does steel through a tighter pattern. In a normal choke compared to lead of cartridge of lthe same size and weight,anyone?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Does steel through a tighter pattern. In a normal choke compared to lead of cartridge of lthe same size and weight,anyone?. The short sharp answer is, yes. As you'd expect, there are infinite ifs and buts so you'd probably have to ask a more precise question of the steel users for any given specific inquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Some people love the pattern master code black others like undertaker chokes, I prefer the Kicks High Flyer Modified as it is great with BB and for geese and shoots all types of shot non toxic and lead with fantastic results, I'm not one for 60+yard shots at geese. The pattern master is to tight for most duck shooting unless foreshore but great for long range geese. Have a read on the American forums they have used them loads and give some great honest reveiws. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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