Fib new Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Only thing I don't like about the atlas is the heavy trigger... Anyone know how to adjust this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Only thing I don't like about the atlas is the heavy trigger... Anyone know how to adjust this? I stoned mine. They all make sears today that act more like a grappling hook than a fine trip! They put to much angle on the sears so they actually cause a caming motion, usually observed by the hammer just moving back more just before release. Carefully loose the cam effect and a very good trigger ia gained with out weakening any springs. The one in the picture looks just like a Savage 24. Dont dry fire them, their pins break easy. I repaired mine with drill rod in the origanal rear part, cross pinned. Never broke again! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Whilst a 12ft lb is capable of some fox work it can seldom be considered the first choice. There are NO specific Laws about fox suitable types of gun, calibres, energy, etc., but there will be very few times in the world of Fox control a 12 ft lb will be the tool of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 when I was a boy about 14 years old killed a fox dead with a blackwidow catapult with a ball bearing in it hit it right between the eyes ,jumped up dead as you like ,range was about 25 yrds .would not recommend doing that now but when your kids its a different matter.used to be a crack shot with the sling shot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 when I was a boy about 14 years old killed a fox dead with a blackwidow catapult with a ball bearing in it hit it right between the eyes ,jumped up dead as you like ,range was about 25 yrds .would not recommend doing that now but when your kids its a different matter.used to be a crack shot with the sling shot . Wow, would of loved to of seen that! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratbuster Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 The one in the picture looks just like a Savage 24 Where those " Atlas " based on the Savage model 24 or was it the other way round ? This one is marked Atlas as shown in the picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Good question,,,,I don't know. Looks tidy! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratbuster Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 These guns do turn up quite frequently on E-Gun for not much money Some are tidier than others, so you have to watch carefully, but this one is quite nice Cheers, Rb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Someone offered me an Spanish made Atlas 20 bore / .22 magnum combination gun / rifle, would that .22 magnum be enough to kill foxes on a regular base 22WMR was my urban fox calibre of choice for about 2 years until I cleared out all I could within 100yds range I almost always choose chest over head shots and the WMR performed admirably choose your ammo carefully some are better than others. There is a VMax round now too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 22WMR was my urban fox calibre of choice for about 2 years until I cleared out all I could within 100yds range I almost always choose chest over head shots and the WMR performed admirably choose your ammo carefully some are better than others. There is a VMax round now too There certainly is, several actually, and been around a few years now. My WMR ammo of choice for most work now is the Hornady 30g V-Max, very accurate in mine with excellent terminal performance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sorry no its not I have used and regularly seen a 22 pistol used on the farm to put cattle and sheep out of their misery I'm not going to take a 22 rifle to shoot mountain rams next time, I'll stick to a 308. In perfect conditions the air rifle worked if you'd pulled that shot a little (we all do it) would the air rifle still have penetrated and killed or would it have left the fox injured? As I don't know I will stick to a rifle or shotgun for fox shooting (I won't use my 22 LR on foxes over 50 yard). If you pull a shot with ANY calibre when aiming at a foxes head you have a chance of wounding. You shouldnt really be pulling shots at ten yards with any calibre but looking at it another way a nick with an air rifle is different to a nick with a 243, 1 survives the other probably dies weeks later. Having said that i would not advocate going looking for foxes armed with an air rifle or trying to shoot them in the head.There are only 2 scenarios where i would take a head shot on charlie and that is, when only his head is visible, and the backstop to his head is the rest of his body.. Also with something considerably larger than an air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedster Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 My WMR ammo of choice for most work now is the Hornady 30g V-Max, very accurate in mine with excellent terminal performance! Agreed, they work a treat in mine too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 If you pull a shot with ANY calibre when aiming at a foxes head you have a chance of wounding. You shouldnt really be pulling shots at ten yards with any calibre but looking at it another way a nick with an air rifle is different to a nick with a 243, 1 survives the other probably dies weeks later. Having said that i would not advocate going looking for foxes armed with an air rifle or trying to shoot them in the head.There are only 2 scenarios where i would take a head shot on charlie and that is, when only his head is visible, and the backstop to his head is the rest of his body.. Also with something considerably larger than an air rifle. But at ten yards I don't have to aim my 308 at the head a boiler room shoot will more than do and it's a bigger target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 To be honest a boiler room shot always kills. Maybe not instant sometimes but it beats dying by busted jaw ! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 i want a combination gun ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 But at ten yards I don't have to aim my 308 at the head a boiler room shoot will more than do and it's a bigger target Just remember to aim 2" high and you'll be fine, having shot a roe at that range it opened my eyes a little to how low the bullet was compared to the scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 But at ten yards I don't have to aim my 308 at the head a boiler room shoot will more than do and it's a bigger target I agree and apart from the 2 circumstances i gave i can not see a valid reason for anyone to aim at a foxes head apart from being under gunned which is why i did the little " foxperiment" just to see if an air rifle was capable of taking out a fox and much to my suprise and a few others, it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 The problem with the foxperiment is that it was on a dead animal and that we can never know if the shot will kill instantly, yes it may cause damage to the skull and brain, but will it kill cleanly and quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 The problem with the foxperiment is that it was on a dead animal and that we can never know if the shot will kill instantly, yes it may cause damage to the skull and brain, but will it kill cleanly and quickly? Cant say 100% but the shot to the side of the head did penetrate the skull and enter the brain so i would say yes on that one, while the shot to the top of the head penetrated the skull but not the brain so maybe not an instant kill. Maybe if it was a southern fox both shots would have been instant kills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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