shakin stevens Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Sounds good Graham, i didn't change the choke one afternoon on a tide flight with deeks out, went with a chap from Nottingham he knows who he is! well i couldn't hit a thing with .675 terror in, the ducks kept coming striaght in, found it way to tight just use mine for geese on the shore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 There was /is some negative feedback on the terrors allmost all of it centred around beretta and bennili guns and the mobil optima and crio choke tube set ups, the terror chokes have tight constrictions and are made to very close tollerances of 40 - 42C 4130 steel (basically a type of high power rifle barrel steel) and the quality of machining is exelent, and currently the company SRM have a semi auto shotgun contract from the US army here is a video with some Russian putting it through its paces. The machining of these tubes can only be as good as the barrel threads they are being screwed in to, and because the tubes are such a tight constriction they do rely to some extent on the suport of the shotguns barrel on the thiner threaded/ profiled area of the tube. So a slopy thread is not offering the kind of suport required and this has been blamed by SRM for some issues as i said notably in Beretta and Benneli guns. Needless to say Jeff Hagar will stand by the products SRM manufacture. There as been a lot of negative feedback from jump on the bandwagon internet heroes who never even owned these choke tubes and i think this and the big militaty contract has led the firm to the conclusion its just not worth their time any more, this is sad because many myself included rate these products highly and the performance they make available to us. You can shoot F through a 10ga with a terror .705 and a .720 but the .720 only patterns up to around T when delivering typical patterns of around 65% at 60 yards with F steel the patterns from the 720 in my experience are around 45-50% at 60 yards . F is hard to get to work and the .735 terror or Brileys IM in .745 constriction will acctualy delliver about 7% more at 60yards than the tighter .720. The 705 will tighten up the F shot very well and 65% can be acchieved with some loads and this choke so it is worth the effort trying this if you want to use F steel. I use BBB and some T as my biggest steel in the 10ga and in 12s i seldom shoot bigger than BB so the .720 suits me better. If you are on a tight budget dont discount the Briley IM at .745 they work well but not quite as good as the terror .720. SRM are running down production on the terror tubes basicaly when they have sold off their stock of these tubes they have done forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Sounds good Graham, i didn't change the choke one afternoon on a tide flight with deeks out, went with a chap from Nottingham he knows who he is! well i couldn't hit a thing with .675 terror in, the ducks kept coming striaght in, found it way to tight just use mine for geese on the shore. You need to take the terror clay shooting - it certainly concentrates the mind and has staggering patterns with lead shot at serious distances!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Well, ive now got an order placed for a .655 for the 12 and a .705 for the 10 (both terrors). I'm looking forward to getting them to do some patterning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Well, ive now got an order placed for a .655 for the 12 and a .705 for the 10 (both terrors). I'm looking forward to getting them to do some patterning. Did you ring laurie or book the chokes online? I ask because i would be interested to know just how many they have left, this .705 is for a Browning invector right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Did you ring laurie or book the chokes online? I ask because i would be interested to know just how many they have left, this .705 is for a Browning invector right? Sorry, i booked online, so i don't know how many they have left. Yes, the .705 is for Browning Invector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Patternmaster have just bought out the new ANACONDA choke hear in the UK And is available to buy from pro duck and goose huntings supplies ...I have just purchesed the short and mid range tubes .....after reading all about them, I think they will suit my kind of shooting .. and are not as tight as the code black also there is no restriction lugs in the Anaconda tube ... Edited July 18, 2013 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Received my .655 for the xtrema today and my .705 for my Browning Gold 10. They took 15 days to be delivered. I will more than likely pattern test them soon and post my results here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I have an option on a couple of Patternmaster chokes and am a little confused. The choice is between the Code Black Duck or the Anaconda short range which is 0.733 (as per the website). What sizes are these the equivalent of ?? These are predominantly for wildfowling on the foreshore. I'm not into knocking geese down at silly ranges but I am into cleaner kills. Any thoughts as to what option would you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I have an option on a couple of Patternmaster chokes and am a little confused. The choice is between the Code Black Duck or the Anaconda short range which is 0.733 (as per the website). What sizes are these the equivalent of ?? These are predominantly for wildfowling on the foreshore. I'm not into knocking geese down at silly ranges but I am into cleaner kills. Any thoughts as to what option would you choose. I believe the patternmasters are not a choke in the traditional sense. 12 bore is .729 depending on manufacturer so that would be a very open choke! I am considering getting brileys for the auto and the new s/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Is it pattern constriction then Matt ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Is it pattern constriction then Matt ?? I think it might be shot string but not 100% sure. Personally i wouldnt bother with them. Fenboy was very happy with the pattern from his briley choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) If its cleaner kills your looking for I would go for the code black , it retards the wad so in theory there should not be so much of a shot string . The downside is you will need to shoot straighter ! The Anaconda is more of a typical constriction choke so will give a longer string. Edited July 24, 2014 by fenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I'm trying to become ultra modern Matt. Not sure I can get into this technology after too many years of believing that if I shoot straight and true then my success rate will be pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 All I would need then is to get the birds over me and not over those people 60 yards from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 AYA if you want any info on the pattern master pop in .. I've loads of info on them .. I've been using the Anacondas for a year with great results using both lead and none toxic .. I now have them in my browning O/U.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I'm trying to become ultra modern Matt. Not sure I can get into this technology after too many years of believing that if I shoot straight and true then my success rate will be pretty good I think we need technology that makes the fowl fly lower rather than that which lets us shoot higher ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Washwildfowler, thanks for your kind offer. Tea no sugar just a splash of milk mate. Will drop in sometime before the season starts for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Graham , you have now confused Matt , can you explain what you mean by shooting straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I think we need technology that makes the fowl fly lower rather than that which lets us shoot higher ! I'm hoping to see a duck this season however high or low it may be My luck Harrycat would shoot it from under my nose.....I think hes been practicing on Dales yellow ducks all summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 The only low duck I saw last year were ones that dropped down to take the **** out of Matt knowing they would be quite safe, now he has a new selection of guns they may regret trying that this coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Graham , you have now confused Matt , can you explain what you mean by shooting straight Matt has a new ploy for this season. Look in the sales section and you will see he now has a 10g, a new SBS 12g and his auto. I reckon 2 barrels from the 10, 2 from the SBS and the chance of 1 or possibly more from the 1187 and that single Teal will not escape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Matt has a new ploy for this season. Look in the sales section and you will see he now has a 10g, a new SBS 12g and his auto. I reckon 2 barrels from the 10, 2 from the SBS and the chance of 1 or possibly more from the 1187 and that single Teal will not escape I think by the time he has decided which to shoulder that teal will be heading over the solway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 The only low duck I saw last year were ones that dropped down to take the **** out of Matt knowing they would be quite safe, now he has a new selection of guns they may regret trying that this coming season. I shot some clays with the new gun at sinclairs on sunday. Lets just say i think the duck will be safe for another season Matt has a new ploy for this season. Look in the sales section and you will see he now has a 10g, a new SBS 12g and his auto. I reckon 2 barrels from the 10, 2 from the SBS and the chance of 1 or possibly more from the 1187 and that single Teal will not escape I am still waiting for you to show me how to shoot the new side by side properly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 If its anything like my old sbs that would not be a problem matt. Have you seen the club clay shoot dates on HDWA website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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