'Kitting out' the gun cabinet

[DirtyDeeds]

Thanks to those who helped with the fixing dilema.

 

Now.... How do you 'fit out' the cabinet? It came with a foam mat and a block of foam with 5 cut-outs for guns - a little flimsy if you ask me.

 

But I've heard some people carpet lining them. Also some talk of storing the guns barrel down.

 

So, barrels up or down? And how do you stop them knocking each other and keep them away from those fixing bolts?

 

Just after any of your ideas really - everybody has a different way.

 

Cheers,

Steve

[Devon Fox]

Hi Mate,

 

Barrels down is to stop excess oil seeping into the woodwork after you have cleaned it, i store my guns in their slips inside the cabinet, thats why i have a 3 gun and a 5 gun cabinet .... and i only have 4 guns!

[dazza]

I keep my guns in the slips in the cabinet could that create any problems?

[webber]

Keeping gun in slips in the cabinet could well cause problems.

 

A wet or damp gun, placed in a slip for transport home, and then cleaned and stored in the cabinet is fine, but keeping the gun in a potentially wet or damp slip for prolonged periods is asking for rust.

 

There are some excellent and quite inexpensive knitted gun socks, which I have used sucessfuly for several years. My various slips are stored unzipped and hung up close by the central heating boiler therefore drying any dampness from the slip that may have been accumulated in the field.

 

webber

[DirtyDeeds]

So, guns are stored barrels down to keep the oil from running into the stock. But then some people keep them in their slips - not for me if I want to oil the gun after a days shooting.

 

Does no one have some sort of way of keeping their guns in some sort of order in their cabinets?

 

I was thinking of maybe a strip of wood with some dowel pegs let into it as some form of racking - am I just going over the top?

[Mungler]

Never store a gun in a slip. As has been said, damp gun or damp slip and you are screwed - you'd be surprised how quickly rust sets in with the right conditions. A bit of air will help as long as it ain't damp - stick a search in and you will see there has been discussion before about using dessicants and lights to keep cabinets dry (but not too dry or the wood in your stock could be effected).

 

You should have got a foam strip which has V's cut out of it - you stick it to the back of the cabinet and you slide the gun barrels into the V's to hold the gun up and in place. You should also have got a foam mat for the base of the cabinet. I got both with mine and it wasn't an expensive cabinet.

[DirtyDeeds]

You should have got a foam strip which has V's cut out of it - you stick it to the back of the cabinet and you slide the gun barrels into the V's to hold the gun up and in place. You should also have got a foam mat for the base of the cabinet. I got both with mine and it wasn't an expensive cabinet.

 

Yeah, I did. But it looks flimsy... especialy if I want to store them barrels down because of oiling etc. The foam ain't going to hold the stocks in place.

[Devon Fox]

Would anyone be silly enough to put the gun away in a wet slip?

[Mungler]

Would anyone be silly enough to put the gun away in a wet slip?

 

Ah, wet and damp are different. When I go out there is a good chance the slip ends on the floor / grass even for a moment. Moisture-tastic. My routine is gun out of slip and in cabinet, slip on radiator.

 

As for storing guns upside (barrel) down well that's a new one on me, but hey whatever floats your boat.

 

EDIT:

 

By the way, this one's been done before.

 

http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...=21030&st=0

[CharlieT]

Hot Shot

 

Oh you silly boy...........fancy putting your gun away in a wet slip. I thought even you knew better than that!!

 

Merry Christmas

 

Charlie

[webber]

If you dont over oil the gun, there is no need to store it barrel down. One drop on each firing pin is sufficient. The barrel bores should be lightly coated, not borted in oil. Barrel down is fine on paper, but not that practical if you have several guns.

 

webber

[pin]

If you have to store your gun barrel down in the cabinet to stop oil seeping into the trigger mechanism / stock you have used far too much oil.

 

You only need a tiny amount. There are few places on a gun requiring lubrication, mineral oil has really tiny molecules and you only need a few layers to do the job. Putting so much on that its leeching down the gun is wasteful and unnecessary.

 

The idea is to create a barrier between the metal and the air with the oil, which prevents the chemical reaction of oxidisation from happening, no oxygen no reaction.

 

A bore clean followed by a very light oiling with an oiled cloth is more than sufficient to protect your gun, then you don't need to redesign the cabinet

[decroyffe]

Here Here Pin, the only patrs of any weapon that should be oiled are metal to metal working parts.

if you desaire you can lightly oil the exterior if you think the bluing etc has been chipped away to prevent rust. i lightly oil a patch and pull that through, straight after a put a dry patch through and store the gun like that.

 

if leave any oil in your barrels and fire the gun, you could create more problems than you need.

 

Like you i had to lift the safe above the skirting but never used any blocks, just bolted it to the wall. The safe came completely lined with the wooded dividers as you can see.

[dunganick]

storing barrels down makes no difference in my experiance, look at gunshops how many store barrels down.

 

Like pin said, if you use hte correct amount of oil it wont be a problem. The only risk is that over an extended period of time (a number of years) the stock will darken where it touches the action, however this will happen to the forend just as much, and as the forend tends to be lighter/thinner wood in my experiance its a more pronounced stain. So personally i store upright.

 

I also store in a gunslip, as both gunslip and gun are dried if they get wet. Never had a problem with surface rust, only rust in the chambers, but this is down to the browning/miroku action

[Devon Fox]

There you go eh' Charlie, who am i to argue !

[Tam]

If you have to store your gun barrel down in the cabinet to stop oil seeping into the trigger mechanism / stock you have used far too much oil.

 

You only need a tiny amount. There are few places on a gun requiring lubrication, mineral oil has really tiny molecules and you only need a few layers to do the job. Putting so much on that its leeching down the gun is wasteful and unnecessary.

 

The idea is to create a barrier between the metal and the air with the oil, which prevents the chemical reaction of oxidisation from happening, no oxygen no reaction.

 

A bore clean followed by a very light oiling with an oiled cloth is more than sufficient to protect your gun, then you don't need to redesign the cabinet

 

 

:unsure: won't go far wrong with that advice mate the foam is stronger than it looks - are you pleased with your cabinet

[DirtyDeeds]

Tam, eventually a friend at work sorted me with a cabinet, although I thanked Paul for his efforts.

 

So, mineral oil is best to oil a gun with (?) and only a light amount.

 

I practice Iaido (the Japanese art of drawing the sword) - my katana is oiled the same, very lightly with mineral oil to keep the carbon steel blade from deteriating. I won't use the same oil though, sword oil is 1% oil of cloves - quite odourous!

 

As always, a mine of information - many thanks for helping a newbie.

Steve

[Dr W]

I practice Iaido (the Japanese art of drawing the sword) -

 

Do you use oil or water colours?

[pin]

So, mineral oil is best to oil a gun with (?) and only a light amount.

 

For the metal parts, some use a very sparing amount of gun grease on the hinge pin area (I find it more easily collects dirt so just use oil).

 

Keep the mineral oil off the stock it will ruin it, for the stock use some proper stock stuff, linseed oil or whatever is best for the wood type you have.

[DirtyDeeds]

I practice Iaido (the Japanese art of drawing the sword) -

 

Do you use oil or water colours?

 

:unsure: But there's more to it than just pulling a sword out from it's scabbard. It's a deep form of self meditation with movements that must be performed precisely and with strict etiquette. And, yes, I use oil -choji oil! Another discussion some time....

 

 

For the metal parts, some use a very sparing amount of gun grease on the hinge pin area (I find it more easily collects dirt so just use oil).

 

Keep the mineral oil off the stock it will ruin it, for the stock use some proper stock stuff, linseed oil or whatever is best for the wood type you have.

 

Thanks, Pin.

 

The gun I'm buying is s/hand - I believe the shop owner knew the previous owner. I'll see if I can find out what he used for the wood (I feel a search coming on for cleaning/oiling!).

 

Many thanks,

Steve

[suggs]

i have a nice old Katana myself..

[DirtyDeeds]

i have a nice old Katana myself..

 

Old? Must be worth a bob or two. Saw some nice ones in the British Museum last year - they had a gallery devoted to katana, wakizashi, etc. from quite a few eras.

[DirtyDeeds]

Well, this is what it looked like when I was practice fitting it in place...

 

 

And now I've filled the gaps around the pipe/skirting board, and painted the bare wood that it sits on. I've also lined the inside with a nice bit of carpet - as well as protecting the gun(s), it helps deaden that 'empty oil drum' sound every time the door is opened or shut.

 

 

It looks so cosy in there, I think I'll move in!

[Tam]

Well, this is what it looked like when I was practice fitting it in place...

 

 

And now I've filled the gaps around the pipe/skirting board, and painted the bare wood that it sits on. I've also lined the inside with a nice bit of carpet - as well as protecting the gun(s), it helps deaden that 'empty oil drum' sound every time the door is opened or shut.

 

 

It looks so cosy in there, I think I'll move in!

 

It won't take long till you wish you had gone for a single lock cabbinet

Looks good though