aris Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 After failing to find anyone who would quote me on replacing a bearing on a Bosch WFK2801 washer, I decided to give it a go myself (with help from FIL). Does anyone know how to extract the red bit which holds the bearings? My FIL (a retired mechanic) suggested a bearing puller - i'm just not sure if it would be large enough to get around the centre part. And once it is out - and the old bearings have been gently knocked out - what is the best way to get it all back in? I'm thinking I put the rear bearing in - then the seal, then put it back in. After it is in, I put the outside bearing into place and gently knock it into place around the spindle. There are some videos on youtube on this - but not quite the same setup as this Bosch (which appears to be a class act - full stainless tub!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Bearing puller. With this you can remove the plastic housing AND the bearing. Then to refit you can use a high tensile bolt and nut with a couple of big washers to pull the bearing into place. Edited August 20, 2013 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraivi Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Check out 'e spares ' online. I got all the spares to do both my washer and dryers and they had a load of videos on their website of fitting guides etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Check out 'e spares ' online. I got all the spares to do both my washer and dryers and they had a load of videos on their website of fitting guides etc. Yes, they have a video on youtube, but a very different design to mine. Still very helpful though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I might have a bearing puller you by an use to remove it here if you want to borrow? I can have a look down the shed and see if I still have it, you can use the old bearing race on top of the new ones to tap them into place without doing damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 That would be cool twisted - i think it needs to be a large-ish one, like 6 or 8 inches or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Found a two legged bearing puller set, will go 4-5"deep and around 7" across , not the one I was looking for but it might get you out of trouble Have you tried to shock it loose? Lump of wood over the end of the shaft to protect the threads and a big hammer? Edited August 20, 2013 by Twistedsanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy bingo Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I think when I last did one I took the front off the washer and slid the drum out then knocked the front bearing out from the back and the back bearing from the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Did mine with parts off the internet and access to their instruction video,destroyed bearing getting it out,but new one went in ok,replace drum and spider at the same time.Was quoted £175 over the phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 You are lucky you got a quote. All the repairers I spoke to either wouldn't touch a machine over 5 years old, or refused to give me a quote over the phone - instead saying they had to come and do a diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Thanks to Twistedsanity - got it off using a bearing puller. Now just waiting for the spares in the post - and my machine will hopefully give me another 12 years faithful service! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) So you have had you're washer for 12 year's, you must be attached, i mean emotionally. You can buy a new one for £250 is, won't it be more viable to scrap it, you could get counciling for the split up with bosch. lol Edited August 20, 2013 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Before you fit the new bearing, put it in the freezer for a few hours to shrink it. If it still appears tight, heat the outer casing with a hot air paint stripper to expand it. You can damage the bearing by knocking it in fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markreed Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) , Edited August 20, 2013 by markreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 So you have had you're washer for 12 year's, you must be attached, i mean emotionally. You can buy a new one for £250 is, won't it be more viable to scrap it, you could get counciling for the split up with bosch. lol New washer of this quality is near £1k. £25 punt for a new bearing giving it a new lease of life is worth the risk. A £250 washer will fall to bits after a year or two. You get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 New washer of this quality is near £1k. £25 punt for a new bearing giving it a new lease of life is worth the risk. A £250 washer will fall to bits after a year or two. You get what you pay for. £189 indeset sale price lasted 11 year's£239 hoover sale price been going ok since replacing broken indeset. The other £572 I spent on shooting stuff. sorted, Oh! And no wasted time playing with old washing machines. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 A machine that falls apart after 2 years is no problem-in the UK we haver the best consumer rights concerning white goods in Europe-up to 7 years, in fact. Ignore all the extended warranty Bullplop and keep your receipt then check out your consumer rights-virtually any machine that fails in the first 3-4 years (as long as it has been subjected to "reasonable" use) is covered under your consumer rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) £189 indeset sale price lasted 11 year's £239 hoover sale price been going ok since replacing broken indeset. The other £572 I spent on shooting stuff. sorted, Oh! And no wasted time playing with old washing machines. ;-) How many loads of wash do you do a week? :-) In years gone past - yes, they lasted. No longer. Have a read here: http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2948-how-long-should-a-washing-machine-last.html http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2822-washing-machine-buying-guide.html http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2930-the-cost-of-a-cheap-washing-machine.html Edited August 20, 2013 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Before you fit the new bearing, put it in the freezer for a few hours to shrink it. If it still appears tight, heat the outer casing with a hot air paint stripper to expand it. You can damage the bearing by knocking it in fella. I presume you mean tight on the iter race? You don't want to be shrinking it to get it on the shaft, quite the opposite. You can get bearing fitting kits which basically disperse the load onto the outer and inner race at the same time as you hit it with a dead blow. Not really worth the investment tho for a one off. Get some decent punches and take it easy making sure it's going in/on flush, only tap the outer raceway when putting in the housing, and the inner when fitting to the shaft. Don't hit the internal parts, even if it looks ok it won't last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I don't concern myself with that problem. But our clothes ain't too bad smelly wise, and the horse blankets. We only wear brown and grey in our house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 It was suggested by twistedsanity that I use the old bearing to tap down on the new one gently with a mallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I presume you mean tight on the iter race? You don't want to be shrinking it to get it on the shaft, quite the opposite. You can get bearing fitting kits which basically disperse the load onto the outer and inner race at the same time as you hit it with a dead blow. Not really worth the investment tho for a one off. Get some decent punches and take it easy making sure it's going in/on flush, only tap the outer raceway when putting in the housing, and the inner when fitting to the shaft. Don't hit the internal parts, even if it looks ok it won't last. Yes, fit in the outer casing first, then over the shaft. It can be warmed up if necessary when its in the casing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 If you need to heat or cool any bearings then I am afraid you have the wrong ones! They are made to fit tightly and the trick is to get them I to the hole without damaging the faces , the face of the bearings you removed are the perfect size so using them on top of the bearings you are fitting and hitting them with a hammer disperses the force of the hammer perfectly across the face of the new ones without distorting or damaging them in any way and they should pop in quite easily , there is no need to hit them with punches and risk damaging the faces . When they are fitted into the casing they will slide onto the shaft fairly easily and refitting the nut onto the shaft either with the pulley or a large flat washer will nip them into place for reassembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 After failing to find anyone who would quote me on replacing a bearing on a Bosch WFK2801 washer, I decided to give it a go myself (with help from FIL). Does anyone know how to extract the red bit which holds the bearings? My FIL (a retired mechanic) suggested a bearing puller - i'm just not sure if it would be large enough to get around the centre part. And once it is out - and the old bearings have been gently knocked out - what is the best way to get it all back in? I'm thinking I put the rear bearing in - then the seal, then put it back in. After it is in, I put the outside bearing into place and gently knock it into place around the spindle. There are some videos on youtube on this - but not quite the same setup as this Bosch (which appears to be a class act - full stainless tub!). If the three holes in the centre are threaded .... make your own puller with three lengths of stud iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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