overandunder2012 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 You still hurting on behalf of the miners. I've got relatives who excercised their 'right to buy'. They say it is the best thing any politician did for them. I think there were another 1.5 million who think the same, both southerners and northeners. They must all like me, be a misguided loony. i must admit the right to buy was a good idea but i think they were ment to build new houses with the cash so others could do it down the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitey10765666 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 If one person got an imaginary friend its called crazy, If thousands of people got an imaginary friend its called a worship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 To be frank I just don't get the whole religion thing. If you could convince people to step back into reality and show them what their preaching about I'm sure many would feel the same. I agree that some peopleare ddesperate and feel inadequate accepting life for what it is, therefore inventing a bunch of lies to make it sound better. Anyway peace out, amen and happy Hanukkah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I had a knock on the door today, i could see there was two people , anyway as soon as i opened the door,i booklet was thrust towards me by a young girl, instantly i knew she was a JW..anyway, not being rude,( i had the door a jar to keep the dog in), I said , sorry sweet pea, i am a humanist, then the adult poked her head around the corner...whats a humanist? ..well it only turns out to be the sister of one of my customers so i explained, i don't believe in any god as such, more in evolution and the big bang, etc etc anyway, I had not been in long coming back from the field, she must of picked up this from the camo gear do you shoot she asked me, yes i replied..i shoot rabbits and pigeon , and i eat them.... How do you bleed them, she said I don't , they are stone dead by the time i pick them up.... she then said , do you know, the blood carries the sole of the animal... i just couldn't help myself... my reply was... that explains my love of carrots and corn then she wished me well and left..... i wasn't rude, but very pleased with myself for a quick reply See? I always believed the feet carried the soles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkella Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Everyone needs something to fill a void in thier lives, its called faith. I have faith in my bank account even though its looking gloomy right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) While I am not really that religious I do take strong issue with the JW`s mainly because of the door knocking. I see the door knocking as an invasion of my privicy, if i wanted them and there booklets I would go find them or pick up the phone. I think its extreamly rude to go around door knocking like this, I never buy from the door and wont give any charity or campaign any of my time other than to to say no thanks. Live and let live as they say,no other religion knocks doors like this lot and our estate seems to get a real regular targeting especally the old lady 3 doors down whos a widow and afraid to leave the house, yet they keep praying on her. Regards Matt Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does! Bleeding mormons (or have I got one to many m's in?)!!! Easy to spot mind, they have on dark 2 piece suits and look like representatives from a door to door funeral parlour! Edited September 25, 2013 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 To be frank I just don't get the whole religion thing. If you could convince people to step back into reality and show them what their preaching about I'm sure many would feel the same. I agree that some peopleare ddesperate and feel inadequate accepting life for what it is, therefore inventing a bunch of lies to make it sound better. Anyway peace out, amen and happy Hanukkah You don`t get it, then you say people are desperate and need to cling to it, either you get it or you do not... probably the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 ... that explains my love of carrots and corn then ......and there was me thinking that the red nose was due to the intake of a certain liquid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Scientists believe that if you take a load of chemicals, stick them in a puddle and leave them there for long enough they will come alive. If someone 'religious' said they believe that, they'd be roundly ridiculed on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Scientists believe that if you take a load of chemicals, stick them in a puddle and leave them there for long enough they will come alive. If someone 'religious' said they believe that, they'd be roundly ridiculed on here. Slightly more complex than that, but then religion tends to deal in non-specifics. Everything here on Earth can be separated into various elements. WE are chemicals and elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Diversionary Mormon story: Many years ago I was driving through a housing estate and a car pulled out of the kerb into the side of me. I stopped and two, smartly dressed young men got out. All very civil and polite , then I asked for their insurance details and there was a problem, as they had no documents with them. By this time I had found out they were Mormons canvassing the estate. Fortunately a passing police car stopped and got involved with the documents question. It ended up that neither was licenced to drive in the UK and they had no insurance. They went off in the police car, but it took my Insurance Company ages to get their money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted September 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Diversionary Mormon story: Many years ago I was driving through a housing estate and a car pulled out of the kerb into the side of me. I stopped and two, smartly dressed young men got out. All very civil and polite , then I asked for their insurance details and there was a problem, as they had no documents with them. By this time I had found out they were Mormons canvassing the estate. Fortunately a passing police car stopped and got involved with the documents question. It ended up that neither was licenced to drive in the UK and they had no insurance. They went off in the police car, but it took my Insurance Company ages to get their money back. we all have bad days Cranfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Slightly more complex than that, but then religion tends to deal in non-specifics. It's no more complex than that. A load of chemicals came alive and ended up becoming self aware. We don't know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 An old fella I work with puts religion into perspective, "some bloke wrote a book thousands of years ago and millions of people believe it as fact, but if you put a sign up saying wet paint people have to touch it to find out". As some of the above have said I wont enter into anything that is offered by door knocking. If I want new windows il ring a window company, if I want religion im sure I can find it on my own. But I also think that people should believe in whatever or whoever they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Does it matter- we all have our own beliefs. Let's leave it at that and respect those beliefs whatever they may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 It's no more complex than that. A load of chemicals came alive and ended up becoming self aware. We don't know how. If you leave a glass of water outside long enough does it:- A) start to grow bacteria, mould etc B) have a visit from a guy in the sky who sprinkles some magic formula which contains said bacteria etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) If you leave a glass of water outside long enough does it:- A) start to grow bacteria, mould etc B) have a visit from a guy in the sky who sprinkles some magic formula which contains said bacteria etc You've not thought this through have you? See if you can spot the gaping hole in your reasoning. Here's a clue - There was NO life. Edited September 26, 2013 by paul65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 We have some strange neighbours who are of Nigerian appearance and can be seen walking up to the train station bible in hand quite regularly like good god fearing folk ,their driveway has a small border either side with a hedge in and I have noticed over the last 6 months or so that there is what appears to be salt spread thickly on the borders every day with some kind of oily greasy looking substance all round the edge of the property and A4 sheets of paper with heavy print on them which get replaced after each rainfall . I reckoned they were fending off slugs due to the huge numbers of them that have been about this year which explained the salt and that the papers were in some way thinking they believed they had been cursed by the dark slug lord . After much ego type winding up the mrs got brave last night and donned my black hoody for a late night stealth paper removal type exercise, far from being anything to do with slugs it appears they believe they have a "poowitch" who regularly deafacates and deposits fecal matter over their property and the papers are telling the witch how Jesus will thrust the fecal matter back at them if they continue , I am thinking of moving home in the very near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 You've not thought this through have you? See if you can spot the gaping hole in your reasoning. Here's a clue - There was NO life. How do you know their was no life? Was you there? Or did you read it in a book some bloke made up thousands of years ago We have some strange neighbours who are of Nigerian appearance and can be seen walking up to the train station bible in hand quite regularly like good god fearing folk ,their driveway has a small border either side with a hedge in and I have noticed over the last 6 months or so that there is what appears to be salt spread thickly on the borders every day with some kind of oily greasy looking substance all round the edge of the property and A4 sheets of paper with heavy print on them which get replaced after each rainfall . I reckoned they were fending off slugs due to the huge numbers of them that have been about this year which explained the salt and that the papers were in some way thinking they believed they had been cursed by the dark slug lord . After much ego type winding up the mrs got brave last night and donned my black hoody for a late night stealth paper removal type exercise, far from being anything to do with slugs it appears they believe they have a "poowitch" who regularly deafacates and deposits fecal matter over their property and the papers are telling the witch how Jesus will thrust the fecal matter back at them if they continue , I am thinking of moving home in the very near future. Them dam poowitches, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 How do you know their was no life? Was you there? On that illustrative comment I think I'll step out of the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Probably best. By the way Goodo, it wasn't just 'some bloke' who made up the misinterpreted nonsense in the tome known as 'The Bible' but rather an utterly random collection of individuals who all had a little go. To base a life view on such utter claptrap makes some folk happy I guess, for the rest of who evolved there is thankfully a combination of science and intelligence to rely on. Must dash, the bogeyman is due round at 11pm, we're having a party with the fairies in the cloud city at the foot of the garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Probably best. By the way Goodo, it wasn't just 'some bloke' who made up the misinterpreted nonsense in the tome known as 'The Bible' but rather an utterly random collection of individuals who all had a little go. To base a life view on such utter claptrap makes some folk happy I guess, for the rest of who evolved there is thankfully a combination of science and intelligence to rely on. Must dash, the bogeyman is due round at 11pm, we're having a party with the fairies in the cloud city at the foot of the garden. We need to bear in mind that these people, from olden-times if you will, were not unintelligent. They were interpreting their experience within the framework of the 'knowledge' or understanding of their time. We do the same today. And even within our modern scientific era, ideas, assumptions and beliefs are sometimes found to be wrong. Our modern western science refuses to countenance the idea that there is anything beyond the material world. That life is purely the result of a chemical process. Maybe that's right, maybe not. But they can't explain how that can be. Can't provide scientific proof of how it works. So that's just another kind of belief system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 well strike me down...... i have just had my 1st taste of religion.... yep i went to that lidle shop place and tried some bishops finger.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Probably best. By the way Goodo, it wasn't just 'some bloke' who made up the misinterpreted nonsense in the tome known as 'The Bible' but rather an utterly random collection of individuals who all had a little go. To base a life view on such utter claptrap makes some folk happy I guess, for the rest of who evolved there is thankfully a combination of science and intelligence to rely on. Must dash, the bogeyman is due round at 11pm, we're having a party with the fairies in the cloud city at the foot of the garden. So not one was a Jew/Israelite? Can science and/or intelligence tell us how the whole of the universe just popped into being at the big bang, because there was nothing (not even space/time) and then all of a sudden there was everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 So not one was a Jew/Israelite? Can science and/or intelligence tell us how the whole of the universe just popped into being at the big bang, because there was nothing (not even space/time) and then all of a sudden there was everything? They're working on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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