haggis Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Been taking my son who is 7 to clay ground which he loves. He loves the old cases has anyone got a couple of rare ones he could have. The odder the colour the better or maker. It would make his day.... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) Take him to West London Shooting School. The pile of cartridges there goes back to the thirties. Someone told me there are estimated to be over 1,000,000 in the pile. I also heard it is the Biggest in Europe ,possibly the world. I bet the cartridges at the bottom would be interesting. You can see a picture of it on their web site. Edited October 23, 2013 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Will they let you rummage through them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 I presume this is the one... couldn't find it on their site but it's certainly a large pile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 It is and it is growing every day. I recently helped put over 1,000 cartridge cases on the pile after just one afternoons corporate shoot. I would think there has to be more than a million, the picture shows less than half of what is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 I presume this is the one... couldn't find it on their site but it's certainly a large pile! I reckon the green ones are Lyalvale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks I sent them a email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I presume this is the one... couldn't find it on their site but it's certainly a large pile! Have a look on GOOGLE MAPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 oh.. just saw it on google maps.. its a big one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Not trying to put a down on anything here, but imagine the amount of lead they have on the ground if that is the cart pile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 To put it in perspective: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Yes, pretty big and growing. But very neat and tidy and always a talking point, I wonder just how many there really are, is 1,000,000 an understatement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Yes, pretty big and growing. But very neat and tidy and always a talking point, I wonder just how many there really are, is 1,000,000 an understatement? Someone above mentioned it has been there since the 30's! Lets look at some simple maths, 20 people a day shooting 50 carts each=1000 cases a day, 360,000 a year roughly, so the 1,000,000 figure comes up in less than 3 years. I don't know as I've never been there, perhaps someone who knows the site usage there better than me can throw something in here, but my guess would be way over 1,000,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Indeed - they appear to be open 6 days a week, and if you read the history section of the website, they say it was open all through WW2 too. I would say 1000 per day is very conservative - but if we use that as a rough average per day over the past 80 years the place has been open, and say 200 days open a year (being conservative taking into account rainy days etc). 200,000*200*80 = 16,000,000 Very rough back of the envelope calculation - but seeing the pile - it sits on a piece of land 2-3 times larger than the two semi-detached houses right below it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Got a reply back from West London and Holland and Holland. They are both sending some to Archie which was unexpected Nice people, he'll be chuffed to bits. And thanks to Poontang for the reply too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Someone above mentioned it has been there since the 30's! Lets look at some simple maths, 20 people a day shooting 50 carts each=1000 cases a day, 360,000 a year roughly, so the 1,000,000 figure comes up in less than 3 years. I don't know as I've never been there, perhaps someone who knows the site usage there better than me can throw something in here, but my guess would be way over 1,000,000. I was coaching at West London today, and I asked the question of how many. Below the pile we can see is a pit. West London Shooting School estimate there to be over 700,000,000 spent cartridges, Seven Hundred Million just in case you thought I had placed a comma or Zero in the wrong place. This I think equates to 2500 per day, and judging on what I see when I work there it is very possible. Got a reply back from West London and Holland and Holland. They are both sending some to Archie which was unexpected Nice people, he'll be chuffed to bits. And thanks to Poontang for the reply too. Glad you and your son were sorted out Edited November 15, 2013 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 thats a lorrer lorrer lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Going on all that shells being 28gr or 1oz thats nearly 20,000 tons of lead :o. I would love to go to the scrappy with 20,000 tons of lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Going on all that shells being 28gr or 1oz thats nearly 20,000 tons of lead :o. I would love to go to the scrappy with 20,000 tons of lead at £1000 per ton i would like to come with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesketh Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 http://youtu.be/i55hsMP-yQ According to this clip 20m in the pile. So do the clay schools do anything with the lead that is getting shot out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 http://youtu.be/i55hsMP-yQ According to this clip 20m in the pile. So do the clay schools do anything with the lead that is getting shot out? get rich on it if they have any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 20m is more reasonable - similar to the 16m guesstimate I made above. 700m would mean over 40k cartridges shot a day over the 80 years they have been open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) The question is , what are they going to do with it all in the end Edited November 15, 2013 by Willpoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Assuming they want to get rid of them, there is a company which recycles them. Chops tem down into component parts, handles the odd live round, and you end up with brass/ steel/lead/ and plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 I believe the cost of collection is prohibitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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