Longchalk Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I've been erecting the hide net, so that when I'm sitting down, it is about 6 inches above the top of my head. This means that my of sight to the horizon involves looking through the top foot or so of net.... Does this sound about right? I don't seem to get spotted by birds coming in from the front until I stand up and fire, which is good, but I really struggle to see them coming through the mesh!.... I'm keep finding myself leaning forward and peering from left to right to see whats going on, which is not good on the back, and involves too much moving about anyway. Do you usually look through the net, or do you lower it slighty so you are effectively peeping over the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiggy84arsenal Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I Look through the net camo net but with a hat on you should be fine just peeping over the net as long as ur still..... Also each session is different some days they just dont care and they drop in when your in the decoys propping up a head but other days they can spot you a mile off. If you think they are spotting you try changing something. Doubt you would make it worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 always look through my net, but as said sometimes I can stand up and keep still and they still come in,lately quite a few have left I,ve been shooting that bad, atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 I too had trouble spotting birds through the net, so just cut a small slot out, only needs to be 6" across x 1" down, gives you full field of view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Clear view net at the front or hat with face veil, saves all that eye straining and keeps your face warm in the cold winter months :good:Then you can look over the top with the net hiding flask, dog, and all the rest of the clutter we have Edited November 17, 2013 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinribz Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I have the same problem i use ghost stealth netting and it gives me a headache trying to look through it now i use a good face veil and a fold up kitchen stool i have my net fully up so it blanks out my decoys but i can see anything above them aproaching keep still to the moment you shoot works a treat this was in the summer though im not expecting them to be so gulible come winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 What I do most of the time is use a combination of a modern stealth net and a piece of old craggy army net and 5 poles... http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab130/TheEssexHunter/essex%20pigeons/001_zpse6c7f6f3.jpg I use a 5mtr net with the 2 back poles nearly on full length the next 2 form a square and the fifth one is in the middle of the front 2 and further out. they are spaced so the 5mtr net has an even amount on each side and you will find the extra space at the front will allow you to bring the gun fwd with out catching the net. The 3 front poles I set so they are above my head, then I put the net down over the poles to the first section and then cover the out side with my old net and this forms my windows. The stealth net is fixed at top on the back 2 poles so it tapers down to the front. It takes me less than 5 min to make it... Mine is the hide on the left of the picture... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longchalk Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Thanks guys. I have been using the usual ghost net, but it just isn't thick enough to hide me or all my **** in the hide. So last week I bought a 5m sq bit of Swedish Army netting which I have sliced up into pieces. Draped over the top of the modern net it combines to make a pretty convincing barrier. But even without this, I still find the ghost net irritating to look through. I'm going to experiment with lowering it next time out I think. This season I shall mostly be modelling a green & black SAS style shemargh on my noggin, which blends in well with the background. .....Even if it does scare the **** out of ramblers. Interested in your construction Tim, but can't open the photo........ Again please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Thanks guys. I have been using the usual ghost net, but it just isn't thick enough to hide me or all my **** in the hide. So last week I bought a 5m sq bit of Swedish Army netting which I have sliced up into pieces. Draped over the top of the modern net it combines to make a pretty convincing barrier. But even without this, I still find the ghost net irritating to look through. I'm going to experiment with lowering it next time out I think. This season I shall mostly be modelling a green & black SAS style shemargh on my noggin, which blends in well with the background. .....Even if it does scare the **** out of ramblers. Interested in your construction Tim, but can't open the photo........ Again please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 If you have a comfortable seat in the hide why are you standing up to shoot? If you shoot from the sitting position you are creating much less movement IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 If you have a comfortable seat in the hide why are you standing up to shoot? If you shoot from the sitting position you are creating much less movement IMHO. Standing up in the hide affords us more opportunity to utilise more foot movement. Shooting is just easier standing up. I find that when I stand up in the hide I can move around plenty before being spotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 And the shooting god, mr digweed says you should stand to take your shots Personally, my shooting suffers badly if I stay seated, but then I'm a carp shot anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinribz Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I agree my dads been trying to teach me to shoot sitting down and its a no go for me i can take birds in front sitting but when youve got birds skirting round the sides you need to stand and move you feet to take the shot its to restrictive wile sitting im left handed so trying to take a bird thats quartering to my left is imposible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 That was a stonking day EH, how many did you finish the day on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Each to their own, I always shoot pigeons over decoys from a sitting position if possible. If you've got them coming into a pattern properly a lot of the shooting will be in a relatively concentrated area. If sitting on a plastic barrel it is quite easy to swivel round to take shots out to the side. It's handy if you've got limited cover to site the hide in as it presents a much smaller profile to the birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longchalk Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Ahh Ok, now I see what you mean. You're obviously going to be a bit more visible with that window than I am in my own lair, but the trade off is at least you can probably see what the heck you are doing I guess. I'm pretty sure I'm being too fussy about complete disguise then. Will make some adjustments next time and see what gives. But won't shooting sitting down though. It's bloody hard enough as it is! Edited November 19, 2013 by Longchalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 But won't shooting sitting down though. It's bloody hard enough as it is! You will be less visible sitting down, it really doesn't make it any harder. Give it a try sometime, what have you got to lose? If you are stuck to having to put the hide under a tree you will see more birds sitting than standing. Two of us shot this lot sitting, hardly any hide needed sat back in the ditch with the hedge behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 How many are there Paul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 PS, not trying to put myself up as any sort of expert, certainly don't have the experience that some of the posters here have. Been at it for just 42 years on and off so still learning all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 How many are there Paul? Just 389 so not a massive day by the standards of some. We didn't realise how many we had until we started to clear up at the end. They were going pretty mad, flighting in on a bean stubble that had been cut several weeks beforehand from all directions. There were only a few on the field when we got there but as soon as we set up they went crazy. I was using a new lightweight rotary I'd just made for the first time, they were so hot for it that we had to go out now and again to clear birds from under it. Didn't matter that there were dozens of birds on their backs in the pattern, they were just avin it large that day. It isn't all about shooting big bags obviously but once in a while when it all comes together it's nice to get into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 It isn't all about shooting big bags obviously but once in a while when it all comes together it's nice to get into them. Indeed it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireSam Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Just 389 so not a massive day by the standards of some. Old Rooster - Please do not state "just" when quoting a tally of 389. It is still a massive day by the standards of most. But to get back to the thread....If you don't like looking through the netting then get your face well covered and keep still.......and when pigeons are determined to feed in a particularly field then your hide, your own camo and several pigeons belly up in the pattern just don't make much difference. Just count yourself very fortunate to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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