millrace Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 ok so this is a bit like guessing lottery numbers, what would you buy if you had say 1500 to spend on a gun to keep and be given to a child when they turn 18, when my girl was born i got a no2 aya and have always old her that its for her when she is 18, i dont care if she only ever shoots one clay with it ..but even her mother has been told if i pop my clogs its got to be kept for her....so whats worth looking at now fow 18 yrs in the future?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 A Winchester 101 Grand European prices have been creeping up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Agree with Fenboy on this - Winchester Grand European or Parker Hale 800 series - same gun - have been steadily increasing in value. The Winchester more so than the Parker Hale. As they have been out of production for 25 years or so, they are becoming rarer. I wouldn't say with any degree of certainty that many guns would increase in real value. Vostok are one of the very few that I am aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Vostok are one of the very few that I am aware of. Rarer than rare thing on a leap year................... The UGB 25Xcel will probably be a collectors item... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I think that any gun bought today for £1500 would be worth more in a few years time . Harnser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 18 years - that's the crystal ball bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I would not guess at a particular gun but if you bought a new gun and locked it away it will lose around 40% straight away new guns are at the moment going up by around 8% per year so if you said 4% for second hand so do the maths then you have to gauge if the gun you have is going to be in favour in 18 years.of course you can't go wrong with Beretta.just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 spas 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 without doubt 20B winchester Grand European Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugb25 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Was having this exact conversation this morning in a gun shop and yes I do own a beretta ugb25 trap gun and they seemed to think the price will rise as it's no longer in production but I would rather shoot it than wrap it in cotton wool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 ugb25 prices seem to be rising gradually, mines spends most of its time in the cabinet these days though. funny thing is i have one, one of my regular shooting mates has one, the clay club owner has one, and another of the members has 2, sporter and trap version. so down this way they're not rare. dont see many of the proper sporter versions about though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 An English boxlock or sidelock non-ejector SxS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Winchester 101's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Interesting replies suppose I should have said, its not as much about making money or the increase of value I see it as more about passing on something that is nice and sound is, a good piece of kit if that makes cence yes if its more valuable happy days really a gun that is rare,, Beretta to commonplace to be interesting def will hold value but mass produced all the same..... Edited November 18, 2013 by millrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Well the current invasion of cheap Turkish guns would suggest anything Western Europe made...... Which gun made in 1995 would you want to own now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I would discount old English sxs as if lead gets banned they will just be ornaments look at the price of most now once a prized possession now reduced to the ranks of a rough shooting gun.i can't think of anything in that price range that is going to be much of an investment for the future.i have a rare Beretta in my cabinet that I am told if you were to buy today would be priced around 15000 pounds but what it is valued at and what you can actually get is a world apart.i suppose if you went the sxs route then a modern multi choked steel proof gun may be of some interest.the ugb is at very best a unreliable experiment that are best forgotten.i dont think guns are a good investment I have spent a fortune over the years and without exaggerating I could have bought a house with the money I have lost.i have two daughters and I am in no doubt that when I do shuffle off this earth my prized guns will be in the dealers for sale before the earth has settled.cash is king as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Interesting replies suppose I should have said, its not as much about making money or the increase of value I see it as more about passing on something that is nice and sound is, a good piece of kit if that makes cence yes if its more valuable happy days really a gun that is rare,, Beretta to commonplace to be interesting def will hold value but mass produced all the same..... I have a Beretta that I doubt you have ever seen one of and are never likely to see so although based on a mass produced model is quite unique so not all are commonplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Winchester 23 !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 How about a nice high grade B25, although in 18 years time who knows what sort of gun will be the normal, I think most people would want a new gun then rather than a old gun especially if they were going to use it a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Where can I find a high grade B25 for £1500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Would a better bet be to buy a SXS in decent nick at a lower price and take the time to bring it up to A1 yourself so you can hand down something that you have worked on with your own hands ? It would surely make it more sentimental ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Try to find a hatsan that has successfully cycled two cartridges now that's rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashman1 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Bless another beretta something special none of ud lesser mortals have ever seen thank you for that mick atb bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Bless another beretta something special none of ud lesser mortals have ever seen thank you for that mick atb bless . all together. YAWN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) I would discount old English sxs as if lead gets banned they will just be ornaments look at the price of most now once a prized possession now reduced to the ranks of a rough shooting gun.i can't think of anything in that price range that is going to be much of an investment for the future..i suppose if you went the sxs route then a modern multi choked steel proof gun may be of some interest.the ugb is at very best a unreliable experiment that are best forgotten.i dont think guns are a good investment I have spent a fortune over the years and without exaggerating I could have bought a house with the money I have lost.i have two daughters and I am in no doubt that when I do shuffle off this earth my prized guns will be in the dealers for sale before the earth has settled.cash is king as they say. I have removed part of this reply as it seems to have offended one or two people. Edited November 20, 2013 by bostonmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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