Whitebridges Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 If you're shooting well at the longer birds, why not just leave the closer ones for another day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) It sounds like you are using a trap gun so it's not all in the chokes the stock will be higher than a sporter ,you would be better to sell the trap gun and buy a sporter trap guns that have been ******** about with are not worth much Deershooter Edited December 23, 2013 by deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I would go multichoke with Teague, at a cost of about £350 including return delivery, I think you will be close to getting your money back compared with a gun that's choked full, and a lot easier to sell.Horses for courses I have a MC sporter and am looking to buy a trap gun with tight chokes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Hello Thanks for all your comments. Yes it's a trap gun which i need because of the higher comb fit. As far as struggling with closer targets , I meant I hit the target but cringe at the damage and cloud of feathers. Leaving until further away is not always easy for various reasons ( pickers, back guns etc) So the option of multi choke would give me more choices in different situations. With it being a high grade gun I was worried about spoiling it. Cheers and thanks to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 If you are intent on going down the multi-choke route - exchange your gun for the same model, with the chokes already converted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 If you are intent on going down the multi-choke route - exchange your gun for the same model, with the chokes already converted.HelloI hear you but I have struggled so much to find a gun that fits And that I get on with. Even if it stays full choked ,it fits and I am comfortable with it. So I need to stick with it That was my issue. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 What grade is it? MK 38 are plentiful you could buy a set of barrels with more open chokes probably similar cost to long teagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 What grade is it? MK 38 are plentiful you could buy a set of barrels with more open chokes probably similar cost to long teaguesHelloIt's grade five with a remodeled forend . A one off There's no rush I'll look around for some barrels . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Where abouts are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Preston Lancashire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Some good dealers up in the NW Tegure supply the chokes for Miroku http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/kit-tests/shotguns/gun_test_mk38_teague_choked_miroku_sporter_1_2913080 and there are some "specials" done by teagues http://www.brierleyguns.com/brierley_bloxham/brierley_blox.php This has the teague thin chokes fitted as standard Teague are Gloucestershire but well worth making the trip if you can. What sort of forend (I'm intrigued) Edited December 23, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Hello When I was looking at buying the gun it has stunning wood work And obviously a trap , but didn't like the forend. So the shop sent the forend away to be re machined similar to a sporter But a unique shape. Best of all the wood and serial umbers match. That's why I wouldn't sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 There are a large number of people with a sporter who have to use a comb riser, me included. Either stick on or cut and adjustable . That's why a trap gun is popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Sounds nice I'm looking for a 32" trap gun but have a limited budget and being a LH shot means I'm struggling to find one at reasonable money with a cast on stock or adjustable I though I had found her but it sold before I got to shoot it, was at gunsmiths this morning and its still on the rack not been paid for....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Sounds nice I'm looking for a 32" trap gun but have a limited budget and being a LH shot means I'm struggling to find one at reasonable money with a cast on stock or adjustable I though I had found her but it sold before I got to shoot it, was at gunsmiths this morning and its still on the rack not been paid for.......HelloI am left handed too and shoot a rh gun, don't get hung up on finding a left handed gun, Most browning and miroku are pretty straight , even if you need more or less cast it's not a hard thing to do Most gun shops will sort it or last resort over the kettle at home. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I need a fair bit of cast........my 525 is factory cast and being a stock bolt type action limited adjustment possible (and the risk of cracking) the toe is the issue for me. I'm sure I'll find one just need to keep improving my shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Hello I am left handed too and shoot a rh gun, don't get hung up on finding a left handed gun, Most browning and miroku are pretty straight , even if you need more or less cast it's not a hard thing to do Most gun shops will sort it or last resort over the kettle at home. Cheers[/quote) Grade 3 & 5 MK38 have an alloy tube which the stock bolt goes through in the wrist of the stock. Try bending one of those without removing the tube at the peril of breaking the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd. Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Yes it's a trap gun which i need because of the higher comb fit. So the option of multi choke would give me more choices in different situations. A lot of trap guns come with full choke in both barrells so you can either leave them as is or have them bored out to your own requirements. If you like the gun and intend to keep it, it would definately be worthwhile considering having it multichoked. This would make it a much more versatile piece of kit. You can then use tight(er) chokes for long shots and open chokes for clos(er) shots. If the cost of having this done is not an issue, then go for it, and Nigel Teague is the best person to do it, and his long thin walled chokes are excellent. You can also change a pattern by using felt and plas wad cartridges ie: a plas wad cartridge will increase a pattern by approx 1/4 choke over a felt wad through a given barrell. When I started shooting there was no such thing as multi chokes. Now, both mine are multis and I wouldn't go back to fixed chokes if you paid me. I can shoot skeet, sporting, trap, pigeons, pheasants, etc etc etc all with one gun just by changing the chokes and cartridges. This is just my view on it and no doubt there will be plenty of other opinions. Edited December 23, 2013 by Elmer Fudd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 A lot of trap guns come with full choke in both barrells so you can either leave them as is or have them bored out to your own requirements. If you like the gun and intend to keep it, it would definately be worthwhile considering having it multichoked. This would make it a much more versatile piece of kit. You can then use tight(er) chokes for long shots and open chokes for clos(er) shots. If the cost of having this done is not an issue, then go for it, and Nigel Teague is the best person to do it, and his long thin walled chokes are excellent. You can also change a pattern by using felt and plas wad cartridges ie: a plas wad cartridge will increase a pattern by approx 1/4 choke over a felt wad through a given barrell. When I started shooting there was no such thing as multi chokes. Now, both mine are multis and I wouldn't go back to fixed chokes if you paid me. I can shoot skeet, sporting, trap, pigeons, pheasants, etc etc etc all with one gun just by changing the chokes and cartridges. This is just my view on it and no doubt there will be plenty of other opinions. Spot on Thanks for that (When you start a topic it seems to side track) I think a lot of points are covered Thanks for all the feed back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigolbear Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Spot on Thanks for that (When you start a topic it seems to side track) I think a lot of points are covered Thanks for all the feed back can i just make a small comment if you go ahead and can i would have the longer chokes they are so much better . I did and don't regret it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 can i just make a small comment if you go ahead and can i would have the longer chokes they are so much better . I did and don't regret it . It sounds like a gun your going to keep for many years so I would say go for the long chokes if you do get it teagued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I costed up putting Teagues into my Beretta 687 game gun and easing the forcing cones, from memory we were in the £400 area about 6 years ago. In the end I found a used set of barrels on Guntrader from a 686, these were identical except were more open choked, £150 for the barrels and £50 to my gunsmith to ensure they fitted OK. Miroku are a popular gun, there is every chance of finding a used set of barrels that should fit, for average driven birds get those bored out to 1/4 or Improved cyl and 1/2 and away you go. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hello I hear you but I have struggled so much to find a gun that fits And that I get on with. Even if it stays full choked ,it fits and I am comfortable with it. So I need to stick with it That was my issue. Cheers You obviously like the gun and shoot well with it So I would ignore all the advice about changing it, If it was me I would go down the Teague route Whatever you do We NEED to see pics of the forend ....lol Good luck with finding what you want, whether its Teague or new barrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrior Posted December 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Will post some pics later Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) The effect of choke is over rated by many, it can be very small. Don't simply think fitting multi will solve your problems, look at other areas first, like where you are pointing the gun! Edited December 24, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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