bullet boy Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 The designer of the AK-47 Assualt Rifle Mikhail Kalashnikov dies aged 94. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 He has certainly left a long lasting legacy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 He has certainly left a long lasting legacy . Very much so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 One he was not proud of by all accounts as its claimed more lives than any other fire arm. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 did he got out with a bang ? ..........will they burn a few banana mags over his grave..........i lay money that a few of his early machines he developed in the 2nd world war are still doing the job !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 In a way he is responsible for more people being killed than the people who invented the A Bomb having said that one gun is much the same as any other you pull the trigger and someone/thing dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 He isn't responsible for anybody being killed, it is the person using his product that has that responsibility. If they weren't using his amazingly robust gun they would be using someone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 In a way he is responsible for more people being killed than the people who invented the A Bomb having said that one gun is much the same as any other you pull the trigger and someone/thing dies. With the legendary inaccuracy of the AK it could be argued he saved an awful lot of lifes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 With the legendary inaccuracy of the AK it could be argued he saved an awful lot of lifes Legendary inaccuracy? With the original 7,62x39 i had a 3'' group at 100m, over 5 shots, open sights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) I was under the impression that although he designed it for his country to fight against hitlers advancing army, 1 it was finished late... (1947) and 2, he hardly received a penny for it. What he made is a simple but reliable weapon that is tough and can pass the test of time. Having shot one, they are quite accurate on semi auto mode, but a bit hard to control on fully auto. The age old debate but they both do the job they were designed to do. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lv9k2czwToM He isn't personally responsible for anyones death nor is any other firearm designer. He had a good run, Rest in peace! Edited December 23, 2013 by Malik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byjovecarruthers Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I always found it slightly dubious that a semi literate Soviet tank driver designed the AK 47 whilst Hugo Schmiesser, designer of the Stg 44 "Sturmgewehr 44", was in Soviet captivity after the end of WW2. Just saying ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 He is a bit like this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Most of the US space programme was developed by captured German scientists. It would be naieve to think that post war Russian rifle design was any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 He was part of a team who designed it and has always said, quite believably he was a small cog in a machine and the final gun was quite different to his early concept. The theory of a simple easily manufactured gun was his gift rather than directly copying the notoriously perfect German designs that were limited by high cost and precise tolerance requirements. Kalashnikov said it needs to do the same, but needs to be ' dumbed down' and designed to work when thrown together. On the man, he did it for his country, it isnt his fault it was a successful concept and he is probably the most well known gunmaker in terms of 'name' since John Moses Browning. True immortality comes from your name, not always your ideas but the two are often paired indefinately. biro, hoover, now Dyson. The men of science to whom a unit was named, Newton, Faraday etc! Interestingly, 'Kalashnikov' is in the spell check dictionary on the iPad im typing this on and that is certainly some mark of its presence in common language. Rest in peace, an unlikely legend who gained his name and /or infamy through service to his country and fellow countrymen, a crime I wouldn't be ashamed to be accused of. He was partially a victim of state propaganda and a mere tool to the communist rhetoric of the times. Very well said. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Scholl Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 He outlived Eugene Stoner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 say wot you want it killed thousands , don't cz come from his neck of the woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Baikal do but cz are from Czech republic cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Well you are wrong because by your reasoning it should be MILLIONS but your reasoning is wrong anyway and somewhat facile. Did the man who invented the wheel kill all pedestrians hit by cars? didn't mean him the guys pulling the trigger killed just like the driver driving the viechles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 As i said previously, after some background research he did appear to be just a cog. The soviet state is what took it to infinity and beyond lol Perhaps they chose to name it after him as his name rolls off the tongue nicely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Legendary inaccuracy? With the original 7,62x39 i had a 3'' group at 100m, over 5 shots, open sights... i hit squat with 1 and it jammed continuously but it was ancient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I always found it slightly dubious that a semi literate Soviet tank driver designed the AK 47 whilst Hugo Schmiesser, designer of the Stg 44 "Sturmgewehr 44", was in Soviet captivity after the end of WW2. Just saying ...... That's where the AK was born +1 for the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 All these claims for the numbers killed by it......I would have thought given the length of service and its use in 2 world wars, the trusty Lee Enfield will have taken a fair few souls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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