hodge911 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) hi all especially the stock refinishers ...... I have recently acquired a Benjamin as392 air rifle which has to say the least a chuffing horrible stock which I am going to start sanding it in morn but I HATE the colour of it it,s a very light beech colour so I am wondering is it possible to stain it to say maybe something like walnut / dark cherry or similar and then do an oil finish as I have read in a few post i.e apply a coat of stock oil leave 24 hrs lightly knock It back with 0000 wire wool etc up to say 3-4 coats. if so what products would you recomend Edited December 28, 2013 by hodge911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 have a word with Subsonicnat on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Beech is hard to stain well, be warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Beech is hard to stain well, be warned. not sure if it is beech wood mate just looks that colour I,ll put some pics up before is start sanding forgot to say in my op that the person I got it off has had a go at what looks like hes sanded it then tried to singe the wood lightly here and there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 After you have to all the varnish off, nitromors works best (use an old toothbrush to get it out of the chequering), then sand it smooth. I use Van Dyke crystals from Axminster for my stain. It's water based so doesn't affect the oil finish. After you have applied the stain, let it dry and then rub it with fine wire wool to knock of the fibres. Then just apply the oil finish. If you get the crystals get the smallest quantity they do because it goes a really long way. Do some testers on some scrap wood and add more crystals or water to get the right colour. Something like a teaspoon to a cup of water. I use normal boiled linseed oil for the finish because I've run out of the better stuff. Tung oil or Teak oil is better. I've done quite a few stocks now and using more or less crystals you can get whatever shade of brown you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 B&Q do a varnish remover its in a white bottle its cheaper and does the job, plus it does not stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Strip it stain with a water based stain and take your time beach is hard to do well as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiemod Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 As a skilled polisher i can say with beach use light coats as it can bleed, but you shouldn't have problems as its not like a peice furniture where it can bleed from the joins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony200sx Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 any chance of taking some pictures of each stages I really fancy doing the same but I don't want to end up with a stock that went from looking ok to then looking a right mess because I didn't know what I was doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 any chance of taking some pictures of each stages I really fancy doing the same but I don't want to end up with a stock that went from looking ok to then looking a right mess because I didn't know what I was doing sorry matey I forgot to take pics of / during sanding but here it is with its first coat of dye [water based dark oak] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 ive got some gunstock walnut stain here Peter,i did my aa s410 with it,if you want it,you know where i am mate.......DAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 ive got some gunstock walnut stain here Peter,i did my aa s410 with it,if you want it,you know where i am mate.......DAZ cheers daz I probs will nick a bit off you for my Lincoln u/o if this one comes out ok I,ve given it another coat of dark oak water based stain and it looks quite good so next is to start the oil finish once its stood overnight going to use teak oil maybe 8/ or so coats as per some vids I,ve watched on you tube the one of the end grain shows the colour the stock was before the 2 coats of dark oak stain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Why not use a real stock oil instead of teak oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) just following recommendation welsh warrior rtaylor said teak oil best what oil would be best ?? Edited January 2, 2014 by hodge911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 A linseed stock oil I make my own but Napier and Trade Secret stock oils are good factory made oils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) well finished the stock used tru oil gave it 8 coats . let it dry overnight and lightly knocked it back with 0000 wire wool in between coats . happy with colour now just cant for the life of me make my mind up if I like the gloss finish or the satin finish as it goes when rubbed back with wire wool . a picture of the stock refitted and a one of the stain I used as asked for by a pw member Edited February 12, 2014 by hodge911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven b Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Very nice budy welldone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Very nice budy welldone thanks mate its the first time I,ve attempted something like that ......don't think its turned out too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Very nice result. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 cracking job on the stock for your first time, can I ask ? but is that a flame thrower underneath your barrel on the rifle :lol: well done bud,,,,,Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Well Done young man, very good for first attempt, Not knocking it, you should be very pleased, you have saved yourself some cash mate.. Always a problem, wether to give it bit of a shine or knock it back a bit, horses for courses as they say. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven b Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 thanks mate its the first time I,ve attempted something like that ......don't think its turned out too bad Ye deffo budy welldone I do stocks as a hobby and most lads first go, s aint that good so welldone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) cracking job on the stock for your first time, can I ask ? but is that a flame thrower underneath your barrel on the rifle :lol: well done bud,,,,,Evo looks like it.............. but when i bought the rifle the 88g cartridge was empty so i didnt know if the seals were ok and as the 88g cartridges are £8 a pop i didnt fancy screwing a new one on for it to empty straight away ....so with the help of a mate whos into co2 guns we came up with the valve you can see that enables me to turn the cartridge off when gun not in use Edited February 13, 2014 by hodge911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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