Oli383 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Hi guys sorry if this topic has been covered recently but i have just acquired a beretta silver pigeon 1 sporter which has a manual safety. I know that a safe gun is an unloaded gun or a broken gun!! I will be using the gun for 50/50 clays and rough shooting, i was just wondering what others think and use. Not sure weather to get it changed or not as i missed a few clays with the clubs auto safety. Many thanks Oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've shot game with a manual and its fine for rough shooting you just have to remember to put the safety on...... You can get into a routine with auto safeties of loading, closing, taking safety off as you mount the gun..... If you then don't the shot you have a loaded and ready to fire gun just like a manual..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I get into a routine fire if no second shot needed straight back on or when closing the gun just get into a habit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I just had my SP sporter converted to auto safe. I prefer it. There is no right answer, it's whatever you're happiest with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Bought a silver pigeon 20g deluxe in December last year and had the auto safety taken of straight away. A safety button dose not make a gun safe. All it stops it the trigger moving not the firing pins. Never rely on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlewis Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I agree with Tim Harris its what your happy with, my preference is auto safe if I forget to take the safety off its my fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I've shot game with a manual and its fine for rough shooting you just have to remember to put the safety on...... You can get into a routine with auto safeties of loading, closing, taking safety off as you mount the gun..... If you then don't the shot you have a loaded and ready to fire gun just like a manual.....My preference too, always reload if no immediate sexond shot so safety always on and always slip it before firing. I occasionally forget to release the safety duhhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Manual. It's what I'm used to and as such if using a gun with an auto safety I find them a pain in the aris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 This has been discussed more than once. Have what you like, I don't like auto safety and frankly don't see it as an additional safety measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 This has been discussed more than once. Have what you like, I don't like auto safety and frankly don't see it as an additional safety measure. + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Have what you prefer for me Auto Safety as I've always had one and it's a habit. But I shoot non auto safety's if I must. Just remember the safety stops you pulling the trigger it does not stop the striker hitting the primer, the gun can still go bang. Don't point anywhere you wouldn't want to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Either or . BUT and I say its a big BUT if you have more than one gun with and without auto safes you have to be very careful as to which you are using . It is not always, especially with older guns ,"safe ", to rely on a safety to ensure the gun is safe . If you miss a shot because the gun is on safe then it is you who is at fault as you are not concentrating on what you are doing . That is a criticism that applies to us all , as the old saying goes >familiarity breeds contempt <. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 This has been discussed more than once. Have what you like, I don't like auto safety and frankly don't see it as an additional safety measure. +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerSim Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) As with HDAV and Dekers, I too am not a fan of auto safeties. ( Mrs Sim has a smilar opinion too) BUT, this is the advantage of how easy it is to change - YOU decide what YOU want, and set the gun up accordingly - on the SP, IIRC, it is very easy to change, so try it both ways... and then YOU decide what works for YOU !!! Edited January 18, 2014 by FarmerSim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Missed Again Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Surely it's not a matter of preference it is a matter of common sense. Anything to do with safety is a must and auto safety makes sure the gun is safe when it's opened reloaded and closed. I'm still trying to work out how you missed a couple of clays with the clubs auto safety Oli. Can anyone explain why a manual safety is as safe as an auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Surely it's not a matter of preference it is a matter of common sense. Anything to do with safety is a must and auto safety makes sure the gun is safe when it's opened reloaded and closed. I'm still trying to work out how you missed a couple of clays with the clubs auto safety Oli. Can anyone explain why a manual safety is as safe as an auto. I disagree entirely with your comment a shotgun "safety" only prevents the trigger being pulled, when would you ever pull the trigger when not intending to shoot something? A loaded gun is never "safe" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli383 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ok thanks guys, i still cant make my mind up :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashman1 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Theres no hope then is there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huds78 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) My 1st gun didn`t have auto safety I was fine with it my current gun has got an auto safety and I got used to it and its now part of my routine. One thing I will say I have seen many people go to shoot clays and nought happens as they have forgotten to take off the auto safety but I`ve never seen anyone randomly firing off as they have forgotten to put on their manual safety !! Edited January 18, 2014 by huds78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Missed Again Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I disagree entirely with your comment a shotgun "safety" only prevents the trigger being pulled, when would you ever pull the trigger when not intending to shoot something? A loaded gun is never "safe" I'm sorry I'm so thick but I've read your statement 6 times and still don't understand. What has safety got to do with the internal workings of a shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ok so how does a "safety" make a loaded gun more safe? How does a safety that is applied every time you close the gun make the gun more safe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Missed Again Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I thought when a safety catch was in safe mode the gun wouldn't fire. I might be wrong. So anything that helps the safety catch being on more of the time is an aid to shooting safety surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I thought when a safety catch was in safe mode the gun wouldn't fire. I might be wrong. So anything that helps the safety catch being on more of the time is an aid to shooting safety surely. A shotgun safety catch just stops the trigger being pulled it does not stop the gun firing for example if you drop it etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Surely it's not a matter of preference it is a matter of common sense. Anything to do with safety is a must and auto safety makes sure the gun is safe when it's opened reloaded and closed. I'm still trying to work out how you missed a couple of clays with the clubs auto safety Oli. Can anyone explain why a manual safety is as safe as an auto. Where is the auo saftey on a semi auto ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Missed Again Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ok so how does a "safety" make a loaded gun more safe? How does a safety that is applied every time you close the gun make the gun more safe ? 1,Of course it makes a gun more safe because it can't be fired. 2, Every second the gun is in safe mode it is safer. That's why it's called a safety catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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