Blackpowder Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 The issue of snap caps for shot guns has been done to death on a regular basis here on pigeon watch. Usefull things for dry practice but opinions divided as to their use in preserving gun componants. My question is are there such a thing as sap caps or training blanks for rifle calibers? Seems like a good accessory for dry firing and mag loading practice by touch and feel rather than sight. Away back in distant time I had as a plaything a clip of dummy .303 used I assume for training army recruits in slamming that clip into the magazine for a quick reload. These 'rounds' had a red painted groove in the casing for identity from real rounds. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Those red fluted rounds were for Armourers to check the feed on weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I've seen dummy rounds in various rifle calibres for sale in my local gun shop.Usually they're a grey/steel colour,but unaware of anyone who uses them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 As a cadet we were often taught to dry fire rifles as part of the aiming process. Something that my pistol coach also encouraged as an aid to combat flinching in response to the anticipation of recoil. Also helps to instil follow through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 As a cadet we were often taught to dry fire rifles as part of the aiming process. Something that my pistol coach also encouraged as an aid to combat flinching in response to the anticipation of recoil. Also helps to instil follow through. Hi Scully did you have dummy rounds in the chambers when you were doing this. RGDS Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 If you reload you could always just load a head into a case. Punch the primer out first and maybe drill a hole in the side of the case so you can tell them apart from the real one. Probably not the safest thing to do but if you did it outside in a safe directions at all time then you should be ok. In terms of dry firing I was always told its ok to dry fire a centerfire as the pin falls on thin air but never a rimfire as the pin hits the start of the barrel/chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hi Scully did you have dummy rounds in the chambers when you were doing this. RGDS Blackpowder No, with either rifles or pistols.The coach would sometimes load a pistol for a particular person but leave one or two chambers empty but not tell the shooter. It was enlightening to see how the pistol reacted in the shooters hand when the hammer landed on an empty chamber. Sometimes the shooters hand would rise as if the gun had recoiled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Remember having drill rounds with three deep groves cut into the sides on the rifle 556 or sa80 as everyone else knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 In terms of dry firing I was always told its ok to dry fire a centerfire as the pin falls on thin air but never a rimfire as the pin hits the start of the barrel/chamber. Cheers RT I think that is what I am after the safety or otherwise of firing on an empty chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherandSon Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Ive got a 7.62 drill round and loads of .303 in clips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 The issue of snap caps for shot guns has been done to death on a regular basis here on pigeon watch. Usefull things for dry practice but opinions divided as to their use in preserving gun componants. My question is are there such a thing as sap caps or training blanks for rifle calibers? Seems like a good accessory for dry firing and mag loading practice by touch and feel rather than sight. Away back in distant time I had as a plaything a clip of dummy .303 used I assume for training army recruits in slamming that clip into the magazine for a quick reload. These 'rounds' had a red painted groove in the casing for identity from real rounds. Blackpowder I saw Snap caps for many rifle calibres on a stand at the Game Fair a year or two back, so they are available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 If you reload you could always just load a head into a case. Punch the primer out first and maybe drill a hole in the side of the case so you can tell them apart from the real one. Probably not the safest thing to do but if you did it outside in a safe directions at all time then you should be ok. And the 2014 award for most dangerous PW advice goes to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 And the 2014 award for most dangerous PW advice goes to you. Like I said clearly in the post "probably not the safest thing to do" but if it is treated as a live round then it is no more dangerous than shop bought snap caps/dummy rounds, in fact it's exactly the same thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/194b1d3471f03d3561850312/PACHMAYR+A+Zoom+Rifle+snap+caps/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Thanks for that rtaylor Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Do snap caps "wear out"? The brass part that the firing pin hits soon becomes indented, despite the springs behind it. Does this mean that the firing pin is not meeting with the intended resistance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 When ever a post comes up about snap caps I shudder .There will be the same pages of discussion that have been going on since the dam things were invented over 100 years ago . The debate still rages ,should or shouldn't you ? Well the jury on this one is still out and personally I think they will still be out in another 100 years. So here is a professional opinion based on over 45 years working in the gun trade . If dry firing a gun then yes a decent snap cap may stop a striker from breaking , they could also prevent an extractor head from breaking so I use clean fire cases . Top and bottom is use them if you want but be warned some are next to useless and others are a positive menace in my opinion . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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