lloydi73 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 A quick question if you'll indulge me..... How often to you visit your permisions and how long do you stay? Do you go once, twice, three times a week, when you feel like it, or when the vermin gets out of control and in vast numbers they have to be dealt with? Do you spend all day, half a day, a few hours, as long as there is vermin around to shoot then go once it's stopped coming in? I only ask, as I am on 2 month probation at the moment and the farmer has said just come once a week to start, then if I pass (which I am on course to do so unless i **** up really really badly in the next few weeks), I can come whenever. I just don't want to be a pain in his rear, by overcomng, but at the same time, I don't want to come once or so a week and he feels I should be there more and I'm not ineterested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 i go whenever i am off work but i have bought a holiday lodge right on the edge of my 800 acre shoot so am there all night...... this week i am there friday/sat/sun come home monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 If he's said once a week then that's it but I go upto 5 days a week sometimes and been know every day. Currently I'm struggling until I can drive in 2 weeks again but then I'm guessing every other night . The one perm I go monthly /fortnightly sometimes as that's not pestering him to much but some I shoot until the pigeons are gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 When you've served your time, go whenever. Without pestering the man, when you get the opportunity just let him know what you've achieved and point out where you can see a problem and what you're going to do about it. Along the lines of, "I've shot 7 rabbits in 5 acres, but I've spotted quite a few in Long Meadow so I'll get them thinned out as soon as possible". If you don't tell him, he won't know what you've done. Remember, it's not all about shooting. "There's a few magpies about so would you like me to catch them up and see what we can do for the song birds." No harm done if he says no, but on the other hand........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 It can work both ways in my experience. Once you've been given permission some farmers expect you to be at their beck and call, akin to a free of charge pest controller, although I've found this to be the case in only the vast minority of cases. Most landowners realise we work for a living but will expect you do something if they ask. My advice is go as often as you can, but be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I cover a huge area over many farms but only liaise with a few of the main agricultural contractors and a handful of farmers. What is important is to be visible to the farmers without being a pain. Most farmers are busy people and appreciate your help but don't necessarily want to be bothered by you. I drive around our farms every few days. I make a habit of waving to everyone I see on the farms and in machinery on the road or in the fields. Get yourselves known to the people who work at the farm not just the farmer. Once they know you are about they will build up a relationship and have confidence in you. If you can identify a problem and be on top of it before the farmer needs to contact you, then you are doing it right. When you get the chance without bothering the farmer ask him what crop he is putting in such and such fields. You will soon get to know the fields you need to regularly look at and which you can ignore for a while. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) I cover a huge area over many farms but only liaise with a few of the main agricultural contractors and a handful of farmers. What is important is to be visible to the farmers without being a pain. Most farmers are busy people and appreciate your help but don't necessarily want to be bothered by you. I drive around our farms every few days. I make a habit of waving to everyone I see on the farms and in machinery on the road or in the fields. Get yourselves known to the people who work at the farm not just the farmer. Once they know you are about they will build up a relationship and have confidence in you. If you can identify a problem and be on top of it before the farmer needs to contact you, then you are doing it right. When you get the chance without bothering the farmer ask him what crop he is putting in such and such fields. You will soon get to know the fields you need to regularly look at and which you can ignore for a while. Hope this helps Thats an excellent bit of advice, thanks, will definitely do that. And to all you others who have so far given appreciative advice, thanks a lot, I will take all onboard. ATB Lloydi Edited May 29, 2014 by lloydi73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I will add to this always just drop a text to the farmer as it's free and simple. I'm discovering I'm loosing a lot of perms at the moment due to farmers selling up so every so often a text or call to say hello am I ok still to shoot still doesn't hurt. Imagine this You turn up and use a rim fire for example You have a guy turn up and ring the police straight away The police say why you here You reply I've shot here years The farmer says he hasn't a clue who you are and he's had the farm 6 months You might get a telling off or loose your guns and vehicle all for a text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) We have a Greek bloke just turn up around here and my mates don't like him on their land but he just drives through anyway. Last time he drove through the electric fence and never repaired it but let the cattle out (idiot) and he still turns up Communication is the key As said I almost shoot every night sometimes so just say I'll be up all week Edited May 29, 2014 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I shoot on several farms. I only go after the pigeons when there is a realistic chance of shooting a few. I tend to know which farms to look at and at which times of the year. I might not even look around some farms for months at a time. If a farmer has a problem, they can call me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) i shoot many farms,i go to 3 farms on a saturday have a look around then i may go off to others to see what is around let the farmer know you are about,as said all ways let the farmers you are about.now and again i will see the farmers to have a talk they all know my van,so they know im about,all ways park it so it can be seen by them.then they know your about. Edited May 30, 2014 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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