sandspider Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi allI went to put the alloys back on my car today, only to discover that one of the locking wheel nuts wouldn't shift, even with a long bar. Eventually I tried so hard that I've distorted the head of the nut where the locking nut adaptor fits, so I can't even really put much force on it that way. I tried the old trick of hammering a tight socket on to it. That worked, and the socket turned - but it's only rotating the collar of the locking nut, not the nut itself. So now I've got a stuck locking wheel nut with a socket stuck on top of it!Is there anything else I can try to get this free, or is it time to go to a garage? Some sort of drill / dremel and lots of sweating and swearing? I don't mind if the locking nut gets destroyed (it probably already is) but I really don't want to damage the stud in the wheel hub. Any thoughts?Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old melv Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 You can get an extractor socket has a sharp internal thread on the inside.it should bite through the shroud on the outside of the locking wheel nut. I have used one when I lost the adaptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYBURN Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 +1 As above or chisel the shroud out of the way then use the extractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I agree - chisel the shroud off and knock a smaller socket on. Done it quite a few times for friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted July 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks chaps. Unfortunately, I've already got a socket stuck on top, over the shroud. Guess I've got to get this off somehow first? Drill and dremel perhaps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYBURN Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 can you start of with a grinder an then split the socket with a chisel, or mig weld a bar onto the socket to pull it off.(slide hammer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted July 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I've tried all hand tools, but still no luck. Yeah, I think a grinder and a cold chisel might be the way forward. Don't have any welding kit, nor a slide hammer, so think it'll be off to the garage after that. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman91 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Sounds weird but If you find a punch big enough and simply put it straight on the wheel nut and hit it hard enough then you should be able to just unscrew it by hand. It's how a guy in a tyre shop did all four wheels on my car when I lost the key. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted July 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Cheers. Worth a try, if I can get the sodding socket off first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Sounds weird but If you find a punch big enough and simply put it straight on the wheel nut and hit it hard enough then you should be able to just unscrew it by hand. It's how a guy in a tyre shop did all four wheels on my car when I lost the key. Hope this helpsYup, sound weird, but works - I watched our mech supervisor at work undo a seized 3" pipe union using a 2lb hammer and his hands. Couldn't shift it with a 3 foot Stilson, but came off just by clouting it and turning by hand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 +1 for a drifter. Worked for my old landrover and navara. If you can get access to a welder just weld the nut/stud parts together. Failing that, it's grind the wheel off and strip down the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Try putting an extesion bar in the socket thats stuck and wiggle it up and down and side to side whislt pulling it. Then as said by others use a chisel or a smaller socket and make it have it. Edited July 27, 2014 by Albert 888 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
796 Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 What part of the country are you in I could help you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Thanks, appreciate the offer. I'm in Bristol. Anywhere near you? Having said that, I think my neighbour and I are going to tackle it tomorrow and try and weld the socket to the non rotating bit of the locking nut. Fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Thanks chaps. Unfortunately, I've already got a socket stuck on top, over the shroud. Guess I've got to get this off somehow first? Drill and dremel perhaps... Try packing socket full of thick grease then hammer extension into it,if you are lucky hydraulic pressure will move it outwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo9t9 Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I have spent many an hour trying to shift broken locking wheel nuts, i would recommend using a long breaker bar with a fair amount of pressure (note bought so it doesn't slip off) and while your applying the pressure get some one to whack the socket with a brass mallet. Has always worked but can take a little time but when your working with expensive wheels you don't wanna be risking it with a chisel, but if it's that stuck that may be your final option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
796 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hi sorry im in lincolnshire if the socket is really stuck put a long extension on it and a breaker bar and pull up on the long extension bar so it locks it up and try undoing if not try getting a welder to lock it all solid and heat from it will help aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 No worries, thanks anyway. As it happens, we've just got it off. My neighbour managed to get the socket off with a welder, a drill and lots of swearing. Then I got the collar off the locking nut, pounded the hell out of the remains, hammered a socket over it with a massive lump hammer, and got it off with a 3 foot long breaker bar. Victory! The moral of the story is don't hammer a socket on if the rotating collar still rotates. And I need a bigger hammer! Thanks for all the suggestions. Bloody thing better pass its MOT now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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