Wildfowler325 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hello, Im looking for some quality cold blue that will give good results. The cold blue will be used only on small parts, e.g extended chokes which i would like blued. Which brand/product do you recommend as there are a few on the market. Was looking at Phillips Professional Cold Blue Regards WF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Birchwood Casey is the best I have used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Birch wood casey is very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I was happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Birchwood Casey is OK, but I have always found that Ballistol Klever gives better long term results. Whichever one you choose, the preparation is everything. The surfaces must be totally degreased, and ideally brought back to bright metal. If you apply cold blue over existing bluing, you can end up with a very patchy finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Thanks guys! Which birchwood casey cold blue did you use, Perma Blue or Super Blue? WF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Perma Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 My pics were perma blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I've used the ballistol Klever and it worked very well, but with all cold blues it is only a surface coating so won't last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 How did you's apply your perma blue. Im looking at blueing my extended chokes. Thanks Wf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Whatever you use you will always get that bad egg smell with a cold blue. And they almost always contain selenium dioxide which is a very nasty poison ..............so use gloves and don't put your fingers in your mouth or eat whilst you're using it . :sick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Degrease, then use blueing remover ,wet and dry, wire wool, then degrease, Then apply blueing using big cotton buds supplied and leave no longer than 60 seconds. Rinse off under tap , then wire wool and apply stuff in packed to seal it if it's dark enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Whatever you use you will always get that bad egg smell with a cold blue. And they almost always contain selenium dioxide which is a very nasty poison ..............so use gloves and don't put your fingers in your mouth or eat whilst you're using it . :sick: So are you saying Graham, that If I got Lorraine to cold blue her rifles and bearing in mind that when she's thinking she puts her fingers in her mouth, I could feasibly collect on her insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 You have to be bloody quick tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) I was going to try putting enough gold blue in a container so that i could dip the choke tube (with both ends of the choke pluged) in instead of using big cotton buds. Do you think this would work well or would i be better doing it the way mentioned Edited August 17, 2014 by Wildfowler325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'd be interested to see the results. If it goes to plan please post some before and after pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 So are you saying Graham, that If I got Lorraine to cold blue her rifles and bearing in mind that when she's thinking she puts her fingers in her mouth, I could feasibly collect on her insurance? No dave.....Lorraine is invincible As for results with cold blueing.......I've tried 'em all and the results never stand up to any use, and wear very quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Which birchwood casey cold blue did you use, Perma Blue or Super Blue? Tried both, IMO the Super Blue is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 All cold blueing wears very quickly, and so it is only useful for areas not subject to such. A good friend of mine is a professional gunsmith and barrel bluer. If he could get away with using cold blue he would do, as hot blueing can be extremely hazardous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Just ran in to a problem as iv just realised that my chokes are made from stainless steel which cant be cold blued. Looks like im going to need the leave them the way they are. Thanks anyway for your help! WF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 All cold blueing is rubbish and doesn't stand the test of time. Some also sell a varnish to apply over it to try and make it last which kind of bears this out. If I want small parts blueing I heat them up cherry red and drop them in old motor oil. This does last but not suitable for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 If it's just chokes you want blued, take 'em into a proper gunsmith and he will simply drop them into a small bluing tank filled with hot salts. Job takes @ 15 minutes and if you find out when he is going to be doing a few jobs and he has the tank heated up and running you may be able wait for them. Went into the Gun Quarter in Brum last year on a Friday, and he had the tank ready for another job, so he dropped a shotgun trigger guard in whilst I waited. Cost me a fiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 If this is an inappropriate hijack, please delete: I'm not content with mt CZ Style and would like to blue it. Can I use any of the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I would be tempted to carefully heat blue the chokes, but dont get them too hot. Cherry red may be a bit much imo. Plenty of vids on youtube showing how to do it matey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'm not content with mt CZ Style and would like to blue it. Can I use any of the above? Yes, use the Super Blue, done my CZ over 5yrs ago & it's still as good as the day I did it....attention to preparation is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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