shootingmike Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I know it's September the first tomorrow and my mind should be elsewhere, but this is doing my head in!! I have a Winchester select over and under, fairly new. I shot about 80 clays yesterday and the bores got filthy. I know that could be cartridge choice but it seems to do it with whatever I shoot and even if i only have a few shots when wildfowling. Onto cleaning, I've used Napier for years and on my escort it cleans all the crud, fouling etc. very quickly and without the need for excessive scrubbing, just a squirt, soak and boresnake does the job. With the Winchester, I squirt loads of Napier, leave it ages to soak, try the bore snake, more spray, bronze brush, more spray, bronze brush with pot scrubber wrapped round it, more spray, more scrubbing, get bored and there's still some plastic fouling after the chamber! This is in a newish gun with normally mirror shiny bores. Any ideas? The only thing I can think is it's a back bored barrel which I believe are slightly oversized?? Therefore, is my bronze brush or bore snake not quite making full contact with the bore? Any tips? Any alternative cleaning products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 buy a payne brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Be carefull with pan scrubbers some are very harsh and can mark the chrome making fouling easier to happen harder to shift. As Gordon R advises plug muzzles with corks etc and pour boiling water down the barrels leave to stand and empty, clean out and should be clear of plastic. Another way is rod in drill with brush and bore cleaner, but go slow. My chrome lined Beretta barrels were a pig for plastic fouling in the forcing cones, in the end I just cleaned as normal and left what plastic was left and it never got worse. Figgy Edited August 31, 2014 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Clenzoil will sort the job. I have it in stock. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Webber what are your prices as I can't find your cleanzoil range on your website? Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I have a Winchester Select, bought new this year. It used to get very dirty with plastic wads. If it is plastic wads, try using a hair dryer to warm the barrels and then switching the hair dryer off and put away from the gun (or the Mrs will kill you if you get gun spray in her hair dryer and it is flammable as well) then spray with Napier. I only use fibre now and it is a doddle to clean. I use the Napier spray and then leave it for about 10 mins while I get a cuppa. I then run the brass brush through only if it is really dirty which is not very often with fibre and then the wads and finish with gun oil every time. comes up shiny clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Thanks all. Had another go with some wd40' more brass brushing and a pull through or two with the bore snake and it's finally shifted. I'll remember the hair drier trick though. Is Clenzol that good then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Never tried it but if John (Webber) sells it I should think it is very good. Good guy there. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 If its anything like mine it'll be the cartridges combined with the back bored barrel. I have a back bored O/U and its fine with virtually any cartridge other than my local RFD's 'own brand' (I think they're just Eley First with their name printed on), If i use them in the O/U the carbon virtually welds itself on and the other thing that gets it off is a bronze brush, a drill and a lot of patience Yet if i use them in either of my other shotguns they're absolutely fine. Switch cartridges and see if it changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingmike Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Will try different cartridges. .. I was shooting gamebore velocity. Might even try fibre wad as well. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I use choke and carb cleaner for all my gun's from the pound shop's does me......kenbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpigeon3 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Best thing to do, is after you have cleaned it give it a God spray down the barrels with the Napier and put it in the cupboard. When you come back a few days later, give it a very light spray and wrap a patch around your brush and push it through. Works like a charm, as they say, time is the best healer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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